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To be America's enemy is dangerous, but to be its ally is fatal

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To be America's enemy is dangerous, but to be its ally is fatal

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    This image is almost 3 years old already lmao.

    If any libs want to learn how tankies see the future you might want to read about the past for once. Pop history doesn’t count.

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      That’s the kicker, Leftists are correct far more often than liberals yet libs never put 2 and 2 together.

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        It’s late stage capitalism, bro, revolution is just around the corner, bro.

        Repeat for 150 years.

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          Revolution has already come in many countries, and the US Empire is on its way out. Not sure what your point is, this is correct.

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            China is ready to take over as the lead capitalist empire.

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              China is neither Capitalist nor an Empire, so not sure what your point is.

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                Removed by mod

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                  That isn’t really a point, could you explain what you meant, rather than sling pejoratives?

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                How is China not capitalist? The government keeps it’s capitalist leashed, but they are the driving force are they not?

                I’m also not sure how you’d not see them as an empire? It’s a big ole place with a lot of folk.

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                  The driving force in the PRC is the public sector. An example I like to use is the rubber ball factory vs the rubber factory, the one who controls the rubber factory has power over the rubber ball factory. In the PRC, heavy industry and large firms are almost entirely under state control, the private sector is more for smaller firms and secondary industries.

                  As for being an Empire, Imperialism isn’t judged by size, but by relations with international countries.

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                  https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html#is-china-state-capitalist

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        Only if you ignore all the obvious facts that make them wrong. For example two of the “allies” pictured here were never allies.

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          Seems to me it’s more saying that NATO’s stated goal for Libya was to “liberate” it, when in reality it was a disaster.

          Either way, I’m more interested in continuing the conversations I tried to have with you regarding Marx’s Law of Value and your understanding of how the PRC functions.

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            Ok but Qaddafi wasn’t an ally of the USA.

            Im not engaging in discussions that have zero to do with this thread in this thread.

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              You don’t have to respond in this thread, I just want you to give an example on the other thread that you say disproves Marx’s Law of Value, and ideally also elaborate on why you think workers in the PRC had it better 2-3 decades ago compared to today.

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              Qadaffi kinda was between ~2003 and 2011. The CIA even captured and handed over enemies from all over the world, along with providing intelligence about dissidents within Libya.

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