Man, this is depressing. While I wasn’t “raised online” since I was raised on dialup and couldn’t block the phone line all that long.
I still remember when google was the new kid on the block and the general feeling about them across early Internet forums.
Microsoft was evil because they copied everybody else’s stuff and wanted to charge for it. Apple was clueless making expensive junk. Sun was a darling for a while at least until they started pulling shit.
Enter mother-fucking-Google. Ethical. Honest. Not evil. Smart. Supporting open source. And on top of all that, FREE to use. Like Microsoft wants to charge you for hotmail if you want an inbox > 2MB? Fucking EVIL!!! Google is ethical because they are completely free!!! And I hear they are working on an email service too. Google just wants to shepherd the internet and protect it from companies like Microsoft, Apple, and AOL.
Oh Google.
A company that survives long enough eventually gets turned to the dark $ide. Greedy asshats will always ruin a good thing for their own benefit
Any company that becomes publicly traded gets turned to the dark side. That’s the factor that does it because they have a legal requirement to do everything they can to maximize profits.
Trying to sustain perpetual growth will always lead to companies fucking over their customers and employees.
While I feel this is true there are so few privately owned companies that prove this as fact. Holds breath that steam never fucks over its customers
I live Valve, but there’s always that nagging bit in the back of my mind reminding me that they can always turn evil in the span of a few years. And the recent debacle with Dolphin doesn’t help
Dolphin isn’t really their fault though. That all comes down to the developers and Nintendo. The outcome sucks either way
No, Dolphin was their fault. Valve reached out to Nintendo before Dolphin was added to the store. If Valve hadn’t asked Nintendo for permission first, Nintendo probably would have said nothing
Nintendo is required by law to do something or else they run the risk of losing their trademarks.
It makes sense though. People can already install Dolphin wherever they want, including the Steam Deck. But Valve probably thinks they can get Nintendo to publish on Steam. It wasn’t so long ago that Sony and Microsoft maintained exclusivility on their platforms. Valve doesn’t win anything allowing Dolphin on Steam, but it can potentially anger Nintendo.
Nintendo sent them a DMCA takedown request for the Dolphin Steam page. So I don’t think we can blame Steam for wanting to stay out of legal trouble
No. That is not at all what happened. No DMCA takedown notice was ever sent in this.
What happened is that Dolphin applied to go on Steam and announced that. Then Valve emailed Nintendo asking for permission. Nintendo said they didn’t want it on the store, pointed to parts of the DMCA which were not actually valid for a theoretical case, and Valve blocked Dolphin from going on Steam
Sorry, I just heard somewhere Nintendo sent a DMCA notice and assumed it was right because that seems like a Nintendo thing to do.
Valve is already evil: they locked down their steam client (unacceptable in the times of GOG, and Epic Games) and allow developers to put DRM in their games. Outside of that they were the pioneers of digital gambling with CS:GO and TF2 and using anti-features as a way to entice people to purchase micro-transactions.
There is also the B Corp designation (short for Public Benefit Corporation) which allows a company to balance its responsibility towards the share holders with some other benefit it aims to provide where the share holders aren’t the (only) beneficiaries.
Google was so exciting. Gmail especially.
We were so keen to ditch yahoo messenger and msn as soon as facebook messenger came out too.
Now it all sucks.
Google didn’t have a plan to keep from becoming evil. They just had a cute motto.
This is what neoliberalism does. It privatizes everything, including the individual. Everyone is a product. Everyone has a “brand”.
Right liberalism is about individual rights, economic freedom and freedom in general. Left-wing countries will give big tech more power cause they’ll have advantages over other companies and groups cause they have the money to pay for unnecessary laws that the left likes and they’ll be friends with the government. In countries even more on the left the problem will be the same but added that you won’t have any economic freedom and individual rights, small groups and companies will most likely not exist or die in the minute they’re created and you won’t be able to support them cause you basically doesn’t own your own money and the money will he spent on useless taxes that you supported. Your ideas give big tech power, you’re not the resistance but the perpetrator. Big techs have grown more and more as the world has become more leftist and you insist in not noticing the base of your mentality is helping big tech.
Wow man, bet you think it’s the LGBTs fault too and that the EU is some leftist place with less freedom than the US.
Travel a bit, helps heaps for people like you, I mean if your freedom includes stuff like holidays…
Travel a bit, helps heaps for people like you, I mean if your freedom includes stuff like holidays…
ouch, right in the freedom 😁
Right wing countries do this. What do you think South Korea is? “Economic freedom,” is freedom commensurate with economic power, which means freedom for people with money, and “personal responsibility” for people without. The opposite of government regulation of business is corporate domination of government. You’re conflating these opposites to falsely align organized labor with “big business.” The entire right-libertarian political project is a smokescreen for the Kochs and their economic class to baffle morons into thinking the policies they want benefit the little guy.
A company can only thrive above all others without good products is if it has support from the government or is a company owned by the government, right-wings want to reduce the State as much as possible while the left often wants to give the State more power. I don’t know how you think people having control of their money instead of giving it to the government for them to do whatever they want is some conspiracy by the corporations but you must note that the last thing a big company wants is that the people have choices and control over their own money, they want people to be babysitted by the government and that they’re their own choices. We act with the principle that anyone can be bad and the power can corrupt people so we work for the power to never be concentrated in the hand of one person or group.
You’re right, True Capitalism has just never been tried!
We already live in a true capitalist society but it’s fastly leaning to the the left. People were happier in the past and capitalism was full on its tracks and countries were more conservative.
are you talking about the years of economic prosperity in North America after the New Deal, the end of the second world war, and the establishment of the United Nations? are those the small government policies that created “real capitalism”? or are you talking about the decline and destruction of global communism at the hands of the Reaganite social order that immediately preceded a half century of malaise and the destruction of the working class? this conversation cannot produce anything for you if you cannot come to the realization. don’t wince. open your eyes and turn your head to the mirror, stupid american. the corn syrup teeth rotting out of your head are the reward they gave you for winning.
You like mental gymnastics.
I really wish to know how people having total control over their lives is some evil capitalism conspiracy.
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Why’s everything gotta be about money? Good things happen without it. Rain falls, feeds a fruit tree, makes a fruit, I eat it, poop out the seeds, new fruit tree grows. Money doesn’t fall from trees, but I can’t eat money.
The whole system is poorly prioritized to protect people’s things instead of people. Even then it does a poor job and only protects the things that belong to those with the most things. It’s not even about those people, just their wealth, because if somebody else got their wealth no one would care about them anymore.
I don’t care about communists or capitalists or any ists you can name. To hell with Mao and Thatcher and Lenin and Reagan and Trump and Biden. Fuck em. My question is why can we always find money for war, and for rich people to do stupid shit, but never enough for health care, or food for hungry children, or anything like that. Fuck anybody okay with hungry babies.
Eating and apple and pooping out the seeds might grow new trees, but none of those trees are likely to make apples like you ate.
Money is a convenient way to trade your work or skills for someone else’s. Like the guy who grafts apple tree scions together to make the apples that taste good grow in their orchard.
Now when the guy who knows how to grow hood apple trees decides he doesn’t want to compete against anybody else’s apples and squashes them, we have problems, and need rules to keep that from happening.
I like how you equated money as a goal to money as a tool and that because the latter is a good idea then the first one must also be a good idea.
I found this list of true-to-seed fruits and vegetables I thought you might find interesting. I found it on The Spruce.
Certain heirloom apples, such as Antonovka
Polyembryonic mango seeds
Lemon
Lime
Orange
Peach
Papaya
Apricot
Nectarine
Heirloom tomatoes
There are tons of other heirloom vegetables, I don’t know why they only mentioned tomatoes on their list but yeah.
haha silly commie. if there’s no money, where you gonna get your money?
I need to log into my old deviantArt account again. Those were fun times.
Don’t bother. Everything has a watermark on it now.
All of this led to me ditching all of those (except YouTube, this is without a real alternative due to the content exclusively hosted there) and starting to self-host my stuff and joining the Fediverse.
To have some sort of viable fediverse alternative to YouTube, the developers of it would have to abandon some of the free software principles that current fediverse platforms uphold. There needs to be a way to monetize to attract creators and get people to host the servers
Free in software should stand for freedom, not money. We need better ways for financing such software projects and creators making content on them.
Shoutout to Deviantart, they a real one
Sadly even with furry porn, still a product. They forced everyone to be in some art AI dataset, it’s quite the downfall
Shame you need an account now to download the old cursor packs and stuff
Is this a Deviant Art ad?
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Even if its extremely pricey mmmhhmm apple
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They only* use it against you when your phone stops working.
*that I we know of.
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We recently had trouble with the voicemail on a phone, and when we were talking to apple support over the phone, they mentioned that our phone had recently overheated but that wouldn’t have caused the problem. It was in the sun on our dashboard for a few minutes a week or 2 before.
I wonder if that type of data could also be going into your interest rates if you apply for an Apple Card. Same with battery levels and drop events. I know that Chinese loan apps mine that data when approving loans, but don’t know if apple would use that data.
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People are so quick to forget. Back when Netflix came out it’s appeal was offering movies for viewing online. People scoffed at it because TV was king and Netflix wasn’t on TV yet, smart TVs weren’t a thing and Roku had to be built as a middleman. “Why would I pay for that”. No one believed in the products in the way that people believe in Netflix and YouTube or Google or even twitter today.
Today every tv is smart, YouTube has a YouTube TV app, all these media companies have their own apps like paramount and ESPN, and people are willing to pay.
Are you high? Netflix wasn’t online, it was DVDs through the mail that you kept until you were ready for new ones. After its online became far more popular than the legacy service, people were still pissed when they announced they were going to stop the DVD mail, even when they stopped using that original service.
I think it’s sort of implied that the time period I’m referring to is when Netflix shifted it’s attention to the online service.
And what I’m saying is still valid. I remember my father scoffing at Netflix because he didn’t think it could compete with traditional TV.
Someone’s underestimating the age of the internet.
Yeah but…ordinary people were not dialing into BBS forums back then. We weren’t “raised” online like kids now are, we were able to log off anytime and not ever need it to function in society. That started changing in the early 2000s. All my kid’s school assignments are now done on a laptop on a district-owned cloud system. He hasn’t needed a pencil and paper in…I forgot how long.
If you’re around my age, congratulations on being the last generation to ever know what the world was like before widespread use of the Internet.
If you’re around my age, congratulations on being the last generation to ever know what the world was like before widespread use of the Internet.
This is why I always insist that the cutoff between millenial and Gen Z is 1995. There’s a pretty obvious generational split along this topic and 1995 seems to be the birth year of the divide
Seriously, Eternal September was like 30 years ago.
Eh. But what does it mean to be raised online? I think for that you need the availability of ever present internet connections in the form of mobile devices. I think the first kids raised online would have been born in 2003, and would have been 4, preschool age, in 2007 when the iPhone came out. Those kids are 16 now. If we want to set the standard for “raised online” as being “digital native” then I think we should dial back the range to when AIM was popular. Again, setting the standard for who could have been raised with that constant interconnectedness as being someone who was 4 at time of introduction would give us the first AIM connected people reaching age 30 right now.
The reality is, I think, in the middle. The first generation we could say was raised online is basically right in between those two ages, 23. The other standard we could try to set is, who is the first generation who doesn’t remember the internet as exciting, just instead a daily part of life
I am sorry to disappoint but people born in 2003 would be either 19 or 20 years old now. I know that it is hard to accept getting old.
I am bad at math
they’re gonna make a movie about this
I want to see the original too.
Edit: Nevermind, it’s posted below. It’s really cringey.
Who tf uses DA for furry porn? There are way better websites nowadays
Yeah its more fur affinity now
Monosodium Glutamate.
Average beehaw user
i cannot escape YouTube at all for sure and i do want to use instagram sometimes + GIB VINE
Use YouTube.com in firefox with u-block origin. Works well enough while not giving them ad revenue.
on computers sure on mobile well it works
Adblock extension + saferi.
Even works in the background and with locked screen
WHY THE HECK IS NOBODY TAKING NOTE OF ME SAYING I USE REVANCED
Yes it is fucking cool and stuff, but iPhone users can’t use revanced or do they?
Because I sure as heck’d use it!
if I’d have a ipad id use it as a drawing tablet if i had an apple pencil too otherwise to the bin
DA, the one half way decent platform. XD
Tumblr, too, once upon a time. Started out as a side project built by a guy and a programmer from his company he paid to help him. He hated social media sites like Facebook and wanted to build a social media site that he would enjoy using. Someplace where he could post his photos and follow people he liked so he could see their content, and that was it.
