• Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world
      4·
      1 year ago

      Kids need access to the internet at a super young age these days for school. If you don’t have some sort of filter in place when they are in single digits or tweens you are just negligent. The internet has some dark corners.

    • smellythief@beehaw.org
      11·
      1 year ago

      If there’s a reliable way to only be alerted to specific activity, then the parents aren’t really actively spying, in the sense that the kids still have privacy when they aren’t transgressing into prohibited space. As long as that prohibited space is reasonable (huge debate possible there of course) and the kids know about the restrictions. imo

      • ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml
        2·
        1 year ago

        this post is about a child being blocked then reported to their parents for ‘teaching crabs to read’
        I don’t think you can defend it as a reasonable prohibited space

      • Llewellyn@lemmy.ml
        61·
        1 year ago

        Better yet, don’t let them use the internet.

        Good luck with that. And also spying is the best way to lose your kid’s trust.

      • ℛ𝒶𝓋ℯ𝓃@pawb.social
        62·
        1 year ago

        My parents used this as part of their obsessive-control emotional / psychological abuse. Mostly to try to indoctrinate me into their cult, and their extremist right-wing ideology. There is a place for filters, and even search reports - but search reports ought to end around 14 years, and by 16 there needs to be some form of legal recognition of privacy rights as a human being for cases of isolating abuse as a part of indoctrination. P*rn blockers etc on the router are fine though, the network legally belongs to the parents. But human being, at least after puberty, requires privacy for proper psychological development. Complete surveillance after that time is psychologically and emotionally harmful to both the child and the relationship.

    • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
      28·
      1 year ago

      I disagree, do not let them use internet as they wish. The age of 12 is so vulnerable for porn addiction, video game addiction, gambling gacha addiction, meme consooming addiction and all the psychological damage that slot machine style colours and visuals can do permanently to a kid’s brain early on. The kid struggles until they are 30, due to this.

      Edit: let me just say, hand them over a book called “Irresistible” by Adam Alter. It is not difficult to understand, easy to read.

        • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
          18·
          1 year ago

          Fuck you too for ignoring the millions of young adults, who were once children like you, who are now many years ahead of you in terms of psychological damage that the capitalist slot machine world has done to their brains permanently. Fuck you for being insensitive to the effects on millions of people, just because you love your video games and do not want to be left out in “social teenager discussions”. Fuck you for wanting to become another cog of the rotten capitalist bingbingwahoo machine.

          I can play the rant game the same way you do, since you choose to come up with the most bizarre irrational justifications to cope with the conditions you faced as a kid, where you were confined to this horrible place. The confinement is the problem, NOT confinement from video games. Video game was not the only missing puzzle piece of your childhood, let alone being the most important one.

          If you are thinking that inventing rationalities makes you a rational person, then you are more irrational than the people you call irrational.

            • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
              15·
              1 year ago

              I love how you demonised me in the earlier comment, and now this one, treating me like a “fucking” “monster” “slave” owner or whatever mental image you form in your head, as you continue to passionately rant, doused in your traumatic past, hurt by it and thinking that attacking me is going to do anything about it. Then you even claim I am the one who does not want to argue in good faith within the span of 1 exchange, where you write 2 thesis long comments.

              Your perspective is irrational and purely one sided. You not having been addicted to porn and games does not mean millions of kids have not gotten addicted. You are less important than the millions of other kids for a society, going by a simple logical analysis of the society’s current condition.

              You have claimed how you missed out on “catching up” with pop culture, wanting to live a video gamer childhood and so on, and want to force that onto other kids because your creativity urge desires that. You are the one who is wrong to want other kids’ brains to get rotten, just because of your fictional creative desires. The abuse of human psychology in advertising, gaming, porn and media industry in general is a more important concern than your personal bickering, and I am okay with being rude about it. I will be an asshole to you, since you first chose to be one.

              I have watched Blade Runner, and I know about 1984 pretty well. George Orwell was a fascist who sold out communists to the police, and I do not consider his fearmongering picturisation fully valid, even if it lays out one of the possibilities of a future world. There are many, many wrong claims and assumptions you make to formulate the conclusion, and it is heavily tainted by your traumatic childhood and your anger largely based in FOMO.

              There is not much rationality in your emotionally loaded rant, and I simply do not have the time or inclination to help you and address this. Generally I am known to help people, but I do not have the energy required to help you, and in life I am getting tired of helping people when almost nobody reciprocates with helping/protecting me. I despise one sided transactional relationships, simply put.

              Seek professional therapy and meditation sessions. You need A LOT of healing. A LOT. I cannot emphasise enough.

  • ChargedBasisGrand@lemmy.ml
    13·
    1 year ago

    computer spyware taught me not to trust computers, my parents, or corporations
    it also taught me how to format drives and reinstall operating systems

  • gon@lemmy.world
    5·
    1 year ago

    A classic. So many questions arise from this simple text+image post:

    1. Is this person’s child named really “Strairdrac The Netherwatcher”?
    2. Is Strairdrac even human?
    3. Why does Strairdrac want to teach crabs how to read?
    4. Why is it considered forbidden knowledge?
    5. What other knowledge is forbidden?

    We will never have all the answers. Still, the questions are themselves a sort of answer.

  • EmperorHenry@lemmy.world
    4·
    1 year ago

    Kaspersky safe kids…Good to know to never use that.

    Kaspersky premium is still pretty good, not perfect, but good.

    • Johanno@feddit.de
      1·
      1 year ago

      Also confirmed Russian company that sells data to their government.

      And since Windows 10 windows defender is (by Design) better.

      Because Windows integrated it into the Systems. Other Software needs to hack their way into those and often open more security holes than they protect

  • Stovetop@lemmy.world
    3·
    1 year ago

    I get the “haha” of this particular search getting reported on…but I think that this sort of surveillance is definitely stepping into creepy territory that will end up doing more harm than good.

    There were definitely web searches I performed about topics back when I was younger that I would never want my parents to know. When you live in an oppressive household where you are taught never to think outside of the box or be anything your parents don’t want you to be, having the internet available is supposed to be a path to liberation.

    If they want to set up filters that block certain results, fine. But tattling is just unethical, especially if the child does not know their search history is being monitored by their parents.

      • ParsnipWitch@feddit.de
        1·
        1 year ago

        The thing is, parents get incredibly conflicted messages about this. When a child DOES end up looking at something bad parents get all the blame for not supervising and controlling their child and get called abusive. If they supervise and control their child they get called helicopter parents or abusive as well.

        And it’s not only regarding the internet. When parents let their children roam, for example, the neighborhood and something bad happens, the parents get the blame and called abusive for letting their child roam the neighborhood. If they control outdoors time for they child, they are abusive again.

        It literally doesn’t matter what you do as a parent, a lot of people will call you a bad parent or an abuser for it. I believe it is one reason why some people don’t want to have children at all. It’s basically an impossible task.

        • xyproto@programming.dev
          1·
          1 year ago

          When a child DOES end up looking at something bad parents get all the blame for not supervising and controlling their child and get called abusive

          Not everywhere. This is typical for the US.