• andz@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    I’m sort of out of the loop here. What does he have tattooed? I doubt the guys got a swastika on his chest, eh?

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      17 hours ago

      It is indeed not a swastika. It actually has a unique name of its own. It’s actually just as easy or perhaps even easier to say than Nazi tattoo. But using it’s correct name isn’t as manipulative or as leading as calling it just a Nazi tattoo. Which is why they will never call it by name. Because most people would have no clue what it was in the first place lol. Even the guys that he served with have corroborated his story that he didn’t know what it was and neither did they. But this is all the people have and they will beat it till they die. Why I don’t know. What’s in it for them? It certainly isn’t honest though.

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        16 hours ago

        And it’s funny that the name people use (“totenkopf”) is just “deaths head”, i.e., any skull. The specific one he got did match a Panzer division logo, but it’s not a well publicized symbol that would be commonly recognized.

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          13 hours ago

          What a load of bullshit, of course he knew what it was.

          I swear, y’all will convince yourselves of literally anything.

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            3 hours ago

            You sure are spending an awful lot of time and energy in this thread, defending what is quite a weak line of reasoning. Can I ask whose payroll you’re on? It might be time to tell the boss it’s not going too well here.

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            11 hours ago

            I think you’re a liar if you say you’d have recognized the SS totenkopf before this attack broke.

            And I think you’re an idiot if you believe this is a secret Nazi plot that involves intentionally getting and keeping a Nazi tattoo for 20 years and only remembering to cover it up when you run for public office.

            So, which are you?

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            13 hours ago

            Legit question: how old was he when he got it?

            When I was a marine I did and said a bunch of homophobic stuff. I just did it because it was the thing to do and I didn’t have a fully developed frontal lobe. I wasn’t the only one and there were a bunch of people in the same boat.

            If he did it at like 34 I would probably assume he is lying. But if he did it before 25 I would say he did a stupid thing and can possibly look past it if his action match his rhetoric.

            Remember everyone gooning for fetterman? He turned into a piece of shit without racist tattoos.

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              12 hours ago

              He got the tattoo at 23. Deployed oversees during the Iraq war. Almost 20 years ago. Nearly half his life ago.

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        17 hours ago

        I figured it was something like this. The Nazis appropriated so many symbols from so many different cultures that some are definitely not well known.

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          17 hours ago

          Yes to be clear I had heard of the totenkoph or the deaths head before. But it took till this false controversy surrounding it and looking at it. That I realized that I’d seen it other places as well. But didn’t know what it was even though I knew the name. Your average person knows far less than even that. Which is why, wherever mass media is reporting on it. Or whenever someone trying to manipulate people emotionally speaks of it. They always frame it as Nazi tattoo. Leaving people to imagine unambiguous or well known symbols like the swastika.

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          13 hours ago

          It’s a fucking totenkopf, it’s like the third most popular Nazi symbol after the swastika and the lightning bolt.

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            11 hours ago

            Sorry we didn’t all grow up as enthralled by nazi symbology as you apparently did.

            I’d say the mustache is higher on that list than an otherwise generic looking skull and crossbones.

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            10 hours ago

            Sorry, to me it just looks like a pirate flag. That’s the exact kind of tattoo I would expect a marine to get.

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      17 hours ago

      The Totenkopf skull, in fact I’d only seen it as the ones Mitchell and Webb were wearing for their famous Nazi comedy skit, and personally it took me years to make the connection that that had actually been a Prussian->German->Nazi emblem.

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      14 hours ago

      People say it was a totenkopf skull and crossbones like you would see on an SS officers hat. I’d encourage you to look up images of the tattoo and that symbol side-by-side though because aside from the outline i would argue they don’t look that similar. He has since had the tattoo covered up with something much less divisive.