• ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
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    1 day ago

    I don’t know how they manage it, but the democrats always have a knack for stacking the odd against themselves.

    Trump, an easily defeatable buffoon in 2016 and 2024, with a huge career-ending legal and moral baggage that normally would have caused any voter with an IQ above that of a turkey to reconsider, won because the democrats somehow managed to pit the absolute worst candidate imaginable against him both times.

    This is more of the same. Platner will lose. Because democrats.

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      12 hours ago

      I want Platner to win because at least there’s a chance he’s not a fascist.

      I honestly hope it’s all bullshit, but I’m not going to just ignore red flag after red flag. I’m not going to turn my fucking brain off just because this guy paid some lip service to socialism or whatever.

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        Well said. I will vote for the least likely to be a fascist candidate every time and between those elections work towards getting a better candidate. Not every candidate is gonna be perfect. Bernie could have been more explicitly pro Palestinian for example but he also would have been a better Candidate than anyone else in the past 50+ years for president. Candidates are pieces on a game board. Not your friends.

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        I want Platner to win because at least there’s a chance he’s not a fascist.

        I wish there was a better choice than 100% fascist or hopefully-not-fascist in the US…

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      Trump, an easily defeatable buffoon in 2016 and 2024

      He wasn’t easily defeatable.

      He was a wealthy, popular, fascist candidate running with the wind at his back thanks to his wealth, fascist friends in media, banking, and tech.

      Trump beat a litany of professional politicians in his own party. Then he ran neck and neck with the liberal challenger three times, because he was actually very savvy and very well-connected and not easy to beat at all.

      Democrats treated him like a joke twice and lost both times. They took him seriously once and barely eeked out a win in a wave year.

      Platner will lose.

      For all Platner’s sins, he appears to be both popular and exactly as fascist as Americans like to see in a politician.

      Now the only question is whether he can beat Collins’s money machine.

    • 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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      that’s their strategy.

      Conservatives can be the worst of the worst, democrats can then be terrible as long as they can say that they aren’t as bad as Republicans. they can sell the nation to billionaires in a more camera friendly way.

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      Not so much that. I felt relief, initially, when I saw she was running instead of Biden. And I liked Wahl. Whatever else he is, he is Midwest, and worth less than a million. Again, Midwest.

      She started out fine. “We’re not going back” was a great byline. Then, some dipshit decided, about the time of the convention, to dump it because “We’re not going back” was too negative. The convention had “See something say something” which was weird.

      Then, she would t say anything definitive about working class just identity politics.

      Then, she started palling around with moderates and Cheney. She had it at the opening. Lost though being the same old shit.

      . In terms of voting, a bunch of people thought Palestine would be helped by not voting for her. Now, there is no Palestine. Would it have been different? The world will never know. Palestine will never know because it doesn’t exist anymore, and almost everyone is dead.

      And some people thought, eh, it wasn’t that big of deal the first time, who cares?

      And a wave of men thought they’d have a better chance at a liveable wage and dating women and establishing that most valuable of things (for some), a legacy (through kids), if maga was in charge.

      MAGA lied, but they did make a bunch of promises of a better life to working class. People are desperate.

      Instead we have a senile old man as president who keeps breaking everything while oligarchs and Vought run things.

      But yeah, Bernie and Mamdani types are what they win on. It’s not that they don’t know that, it’s that they don’t care because they’re owned by oligarchs. As such, whomever the fuck oligarchs people are are the candidates we need.