I moved from the US to the Netherlands, and it really makes this whole attitude even more insane. Like, the solution is easy and obvious: GIVE PEOPLE PRIVACY IN BATHROOMS.
There’s no need for gendered bathrooms if everybody gets their own small stall or closet that actually provides privacy. I do mean floor to ceiling doors, not this weird and creepy as fuck American “we need to see you shitting just in case you’re doing smack” nonsense that leaves gaps between the panels large enough to make eye contact and engage in a firm handshake through.
I don’t know how many times I’ve walked out of the toilet closet and immediately met a woman cleaning the men’s room. And it’s fine!
Uptight Europeans are too focused on their own shitting to offer a nice how-do-you-do to the person in the next stall!
Americans aren’t so privacy obsessed that we wouldn’t be working to offer someone a handshake while on the shitter. Maybe a little bit of footsie under the stall walls. It’s all just being friendly.
I’d also like to add that we should extend urinal barriers by about 5 inches out give or take depending on room size and if the urinals are recessed into the wall or not.
Maybe that would defuse some of the tension but it’s really not necessary. American bathrooms have sufficient privacy as is. I don’t really get this complaint from Europeans. No one is peeking in the cracks at you.
Biggest issue with ours is they often aren’t cleaned adequately, especially public ones.
And no one does? I get that you think it’s strange but again, no one is peering in any more than they are going to climb up and peer through your second story windows.
Thry dont have to peer, theres a emotmous chunk of the stall missing so everyone can see each others legs and pants. Why is that necessary? Why do people need to be able to identify what pants the shitter was wearing that day? Its just awkward and weird. Why cant the stalls be from floor to like 7 feet or something
I moved from the US to the Netherlands, and it really makes this whole attitude even more insane. Like, the solution is easy and obvious: GIVE PEOPLE PRIVACY IN BATHROOMS.
There’s no need for gendered bathrooms if everybody gets their own small stall or closet that actually provides privacy. I do mean floor to ceiling doors, not this weird and creepy as fuck American “we need to see you shitting just in case you’re doing smack” nonsense that leaves gaps between the panels large enough to make eye contact and engage in a firm handshake through.
I don’t know how many times I’ve walked out of the toilet closet and immediately met a woman cleaning the men’s room. And it’s fine!
Uptight Europeans are too focused on their own shitting to offer a nice how-do-you-do to the person in the next stall!
Americans aren’t so privacy obsessed that we wouldn’t be working to offer someone a handshake while on the shitter. Maybe a little bit of footsie under the stall walls. It’s all just being friendly.
I’d also like to add that we should extend urinal barriers by about 5 inches out give or take depending on room size and if the urinals are recessed into the wall or not.
Another option: give urinals their own stalls / rooms. Just give everybody privacy.
Maybe that would defuse some of the tension but it’s really not necessary. American bathrooms have sufficient privacy as is. I don’t really get this complaint from Europeans. No one is peeking in the cracks at you.
Biggest issue with ours is they often aren’t cleaned adequately, especially public ones.
“Maybe it would help people other than me, but that’s obviously not worth it.”
Shut the fuck up.
I don’t think it would help anyone but OK weirdly aggressive reply.
No, nobody needs to see any part of you in a stall. Theres zero need for it, its just weird.
And no one does? I get that you think it’s strange but again, no one is peering in any more than they are going to climb up and peer through your second story windows.
Vertical gabs in bathroom stalls are regularly 0.5-1cm wide, the bottom 30-50cm, and the top 50-70cm wide.
Anybody can violate people’s privacy when the stalls leave such massive gaps. It is shameful.
And if that weren’t th case, bathrooms could be for everyone.
I’ve been looked at through the crack in the stall. Just because it’s never happened to you it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
Well obviously you’re the weird one for noticing! /s
Thry dont have to peer, theres a emotmous chunk of the stall missing so everyone can see each others legs and pants. Why is that necessary? Why do people need to be able to identify what pants the shitter was wearing that day? Its just awkward and weird. Why cant the stalls be from floor to like 7 feet or something
No there isn’t. It’s a tiny crack that is not possible to see through without stopping and carefully peering through.
Or if you mean under then you’d have to bend down and practically lay on the disgusting floor to see someone. It’s not a thing that ever happens.
ok