Nobody is talking about bootlicking. Power is not a supernatural corruptive force. Administration does not turn people evil. What’s important is class analysis, as people do act in their class interests generally.
Yeah that’s why train drivers derail on purpose all the time, the raw power they hold over peoples lives just corrodes their immortal soul. They’re just like cops when you think about it.
What’s the strawman? Being a train driver imbues you with enormous power over peoples lives, and everyone knows power corrupts. Do you disagree with either of these things?
Class isn’t supernatural, correct. It’s a material relation. Capitalists are interested as a class in retaining private ownership, workers are materially interested in collectivizing production. This isn’t a corruptive force, but pure class interest. As for power supernaturally corrupting, no, it is not well-studied by psychology.
People have definitely tried to prove it, but it doesn’t work that way. People act in their self-interest, but what’s dominant is class outlook and how that fits into the mode of production. False positives.
It’s an interesting theory. But without a study in an other mode of production, it’s wishful thinking… and to hope for a new mode of production to change how the brain works, and in such a deep level, is not a very credible one. Moreover, it’s not relevant for communist organization within capitalism.
How is class an “interesting theory?” Class analysis is the basis of historical materialism, which is agreed upon by modern historiography to be one of the most effective ways of analyzing history. It’s fundamentally correct, the idea that capitalists don’t seek their own interest as capitalists is just basic logic.
Further, class analysis is critical for communist organization, as identifying which classes are revolutionary and which ones are not informs how you organize and what is to be done once taking power and establishing socialism.
Power is not a supernatural corruptive force, this narrative is spread to prevent people from organizing.
Or we could try to organize while taking this fact into account. Bootlicking is not necessary to organization.
Haha, I remember being 15 and just throwing Matrix Thoughts around with no structure to cohere them
And you still do that, apparently.
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Nobody is talking about bootlicking. Power is not a supernatural corruptive force. Administration does not turn people evil. What’s important is class analysis, as people do act in their class interests generally.
Class is not supernatural either. But as i said in another message, the corrupting effect of power is well-studied by psychology.
Yeah that’s why train drivers derail on purpose all the time, the raw power they hold over peoples lives just corrodes their immortal soul. They’re just like cops when you think about it.
I still wait for one of you to answer to the message were I post actual scientific papers. It would be more constructive than designing strawmen.
What’s the strawman? Being a train driver imbues you with enormous power over peoples lives, and everyone knows power corrupts. Do you disagree with either of these things?
Class isn’t supernatural, correct. It’s a material relation. Capitalists are interested as a class in retaining private ownership, workers are materially interested in collectivizing production. This isn’t a corruptive force, but pure class interest. As for power supernaturally corrupting, no, it is not well-studied by psychology.
It is studied and no, it’s not supernatural.
People have definitely tried to prove it, but it doesn’t work that way. People act in their self-interest, but what’s dominant is class outlook and how that fits into the mode of production. False positives.
It’s an interesting theory. But without a study in an other mode of production, it’s wishful thinking… and to hope for a new mode of production to change how the brain works, and in such a deep level, is not a very credible one. Moreover, it’s not relevant for communist organization within capitalism.
Bro we have done this multiple times throughout history what the fuck are you talking about
How is class an “interesting theory?” Class analysis is the basis of historical materialism, which is agreed upon by modern historiography to be one of the most effective ways of analyzing history. It’s fundamentally correct, the idea that capitalists don’t seek their own interest as capitalists is just basic logic.
Further, class analysis is critical for communist organization, as identifying which classes are revolutionary and which ones are not informs how you organize and what is to be done once taking power and establishing socialism.