Shall we place bets on when he will no longer be in office, for any cause - illness, death, expulsion, whatever.
My prediction is gone at least by the end of March 2027, maybe Feb. I think in the case of expulsion (or forced ‘resignation’) --which requires the repubs to choose since dems don’t have enough power, that would be the date they would wait for. After the midterms and swearing in of the new congress. It can’t be earlier than that if they (Thiel, etc) want Vance to qualify for 2 more full terms after this partial one.
If forced out by health reasons it’s a lot harder to predict. Usually with these types the sheer evil force is enough to keep the heart pumping longer than the average mortal, even if the brain withers away. But like everyone else here, I check the headlines with fingers crossed each morning.
If Democrats win control of the House, then it will happen earlier, because once the VP becomes President, the VP position becomes vacant, and can only be filled if both houses of Congress approve. And Democrats would likely use the “McConnell doctrine” to sit on any appointment made by President Vance and not act on it.
That would effectively give Democrats an extra half vote in the Senate, because there would be no VP to break ties. And the next Democratic House Speaker would be next in line if, somehow, President Vance also leaves office.
So, once the returns are in (with good news for Democrats), if the plan was to shove Trump to the side it will happen before the new House takes over, while Republicans can still pick a new VP.
Ooh, interesting angle. Though I’m not confident Dems would muster up enough spine to do that (or that some wouldn’t break away and vote with repubs), but yeah, repubs probably wouldn’t want to take that chance.
No, they definitely would sit on the appointment if it’s someone dumb.
They might take what they think is the “middle ground” and let a “compromise candidate” through. But I hope they remember that Merrick Garland was the “compromise candidate”, and Mitch and Lindsey still shit all over that pick.
You seem more optimistic than I am about any form of short trump term. I’d wager the Teflon don ducks the presidency in disgrace when it’s over, Dems win a single election cycle or two, then we’re right back to the m’biden fancy mustard bullshit and have another Republican within a decade. During this time, the oligarch funded Republican spin machine will be in full drive. They will institute managed democracy at the direction of oligarchs. The yokels in the country eat it up, rinse and repeat.
I’ve seen it over and over. Not only does shit hole US&A not have the ability to reign in the oligarchs, it holds no power to punish the political class. I’m stoked more progressive candidates are running and polling well, but this cycle is a played out story imo. We’ll end up with centrist aipac approved Dems in federal office.
They and the repubes will continue to fuck middle poors and everyone in society generally. They’ll “just miss” key votes that enrich the epstien class at the expense of education / social security / anything they can claw back. The supreme court is set for a while - that backstop will ensure no significant leftward shift in US politics.
Shall we place bets on when he will no longer be in office, for any cause - illness, death, expulsion, whatever.
My prediction is gone at least by the end of March 2027, maybe Feb. I think in the case of expulsion (or forced ‘resignation’) --which requires the repubs to choose since dems don’t have enough power, that would be the date they would wait for. After the midterms and swearing in of the new congress. It can’t be earlier than that if they (Thiel, etc) want Vance to qualify for 2 more full terms after this partial one.
If forced out by health reasons it’s a lot harder to predict. Usually with these types the sheer evil force is enough to keep the heart pumping longer than the average mortal, even if the brain withers away. But like everyone else here, I check the headlines with fingers crossed each morning.
If Democrats win control of the House, then it will happen earlier, because once the VP becomes President, the VP position becomes vacant, and can only be filled if both houses of Congress approve. And Democrats would likely use the “McConnell doctrine” to sit on any appointment made by President Vance and not act on it.
That would effectively give Democrats an extra half vote in the Senate, because there would be no VP to break ties. And the next Democratic House Speaker would be next in line if, somehow, President Vance also leaves office.
So, once the returns are in (with good news for Democrats), if the plan was to shove Trump to the side it will happen before the new House takes over, while Republicans can still pick a new VP.
Ooh, interesting angle. Though I’m not confident Dems would muster up enough spine to do that (or that some wouldn’t break away and vote with repubs), but yeah, repubs probably wouldn’t want to take that chance.
No, they definitely would sit on the appointment if it’s someone dumb.
They might take what they think is the “middle ground” and let a “compromise candidate” through. But I hope they remember that Merrick Garland was the “compromise candidate”, and Mitch and Lindsey still shit all over that pick.
You seem more optimistic than I am about any form of short trump term. I’d wager the Teflon don ducks the presidency in disgrace when it’s over, Dems win a single election cycle or two, then we’re right back to the m’biden fancy mustard bullshit and have another Republican within a decade. During this time, the oligarch funded Republican spin machine will be in full drive. They will institute managed democracy at the direction of oligarchs. The yokels in the country eat it up, rinse and repeat.
I’ve seen it over and over. Not only does shit hole US&A not have the ability to reign in the oligarchs, it holds no power to punish the political class. I’m stoked more progressive candidates are running and polling well, but this cycle is a played out story imo. We’ll end up with centrist aipac approved Dems in federal office.
They and the repubes will continue to fuck middle poors and everyone in society generally. They’ll “just miss” key votes that enrich the epstien class at the expense of education / social security / anything they can claw back. The supreme court is set for a while - that backstop will ensure no significant leftward shift in US politics.
OK … but my post was only about predicting when Mangolini will no longer be POTUS.
It’s true I went off the deep end. Sorry for unloading. I’ve got my doubts about dumpf dying in office, but I hope I’m wrong.
It’s hard to resist. :)