• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    2 hours ago

    None of this was ad-hominem. I did not say your claims were wrong because you have an aristocratic viewpoint, I explained your aristocratic attitude and how that impacts potential org-work. Revolution is definitely praxis, and I’m not sure what you mean by “armchair communist,” I organize in real life.

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      Yeah, I have seen the “organizing” marxist-leninists do. At best pointless, often actively harmful and mostly just wanking off on fan-fiction and their personal favourite old white man. And here on Lemmy you are certainly not organizing.

      And kinda rich to claim I have an “aristocratic” attitude, when vanguard parties are literally based on the same argument as monarchism.

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        MLs organizing have established numerous socialist states, and have effectively organized anti-imperialist and decolonial movements around the world. I never said what I do on Lemmy is “organizing,” that would be absurd.

        As for vanguards, no, they are based on the idea that each class produces its own intellectuals, and therefore organizing them and bringing the working classes up theoretically and uniting in an all-sided political struggle is the way to establish socialism. Monarchism is entirely different, and was based on divine right with no accountability.

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          1 hour ago

          Taking over state power by raising a militia is not organizing. Even Castro famously agreed with that.

          Sorry but more circular logic is not gonna cut it. If a group of people no matter their original class decide that they are better suited to rule than others and ursurp power then they declare themselves monarchs and certainly do not represent the working class.

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            Revolution requires organizing, revolution is the establishment of proletarian power. None of my logic has been circular, and what you describe has not happened in socialist states. The working classes run socialist states, and parties have never declared themselves a ruling class, nor have they been one de facto.