But second; It’s the relative of the IRISH president! You know the sovereign country that exists outside the UK!
The fuck is Starmer, prime minister of the UK supposed to do about it?!
Also Ireland can stand on it’s own two feet without the UK interfering with Irish politics.
The sister of the Irish president (you know, the sovereign country that exists outside the UK!) was only one person on board.
They were off the coast of Cyprus, you know, a country that exists in Europe, and has nothing to do with Israel.
The article that you obviously didn’t read, or the one that was linked after that, but decided to add your tuppence worth anyway, Mentions other people on board of the flotilla. I will quote one of the relevant bits for you. I will even bold some of it.
The Irish government condemned Israel’s actions as “wrong” and “unacceptable”.
UK citizens are also among the victims, but UK PM Keir Starmer has still kept silent about Israel’s crimes. Abductees in previous flotillas have been beaten and tortured, and at least one has been raped. The occupation regime regards rape as a weapon of war. Its routine and brutal rape of Palestinian prisoners has begun even to catch the attention of US ‘mainstream’ media, but is still mostly ignored by UK ‘msm’ – though a few have noted Israel’s threat to sue the New York Times for covering it.
NOBODY in Ireland wants the UK (Especially in this context) to interfere with Irish politics. If you knew anything at all about the history of Ireland and the UK, and the ongoing mess in the North of Ireland, you might have been able to stop yourself sounding so obtuse about this. It also might have helped if you had read the article that people are specifically talking about in this thread.
I would like to think I understand enough to believe it would be offensive if the UK stepped in to intervene on behalf of Ireland. Someone correct me if that is wrong.
The UK wasn’t asked to intervene on behalf of Ireland, and it is very unlikely that they would be.
The article specifically mentions that the Irish government have done fuck all too, other than condemn it. They are mostly forced to do that, as the majority of Ireland’s population would be against this.
The article also mentions that there are British people on the flotilla that were also kidnapped/abducted in International waters, illegally, by Israel, and Starmer hasn’t even condemned it. He has said or done nothing about it.
The only reason Ireland is linked, is because one of the people taken, has a famous (in Ireland) sister, who happens to be President, (which is not the head of government in Ireland). There are many more nationalities on board the flotilla.
At least I have an understanding of what actually happened by reading that article. The one in the OP didn’t recount what happened at all beyond summarizing the entire thing as an abduction.
After getting some relevant details, such as the boarding taking place in international waters, the article actually had some value.
There’s been times it’s created articles based on pure theory and conjecture. It was claiming a while ago that TPUSA was deploying blackshirts in the UK when in reality it was just a bunch of Holiness Christians in trackies having a demonstration in SoHo with no relation or connection to TPUSA
The thing most people don’t bother to learn about TPUSA, is that the organization is focused on indoctrination of Christian-Right ideology in schools. They want schools to have a charter to promote their fucked up beliefs. At one point (I don’t know what was made of it) the Oklahoma school superintendent claimed TPUSA charters were something their students (or maybe the parents) wanted and that he would mandate across the state all high school’s have a charter.
I’m talking about the UK. We already have state religion anyway and schools generally have had mandatory religious education and Christian worship during assemblies. We don’t have the same constitutional idea of separation of “Church and State” that the USA is supposed to have, moreso a separation of State and Government. So supporting something like this would just be a simple conservative position rather than something radical
Unlike the UK’s fake religion that everyone knows is fake and is only kept around because without it the monarchy has no legitimacy (also a fake antiquated thing but whatever), American evangelicals actually believe in the evil shit that their religion promotes and endorses them to do.
Or are you saying that killing witches and executing gay people never stopped being mainstream in the UK?
I always imagine these sites have a couple people going over the text and they all want to prove their worth coloring the wording. There’s no one there to dial it back down so that’s how you end with with this
That website is always big on emotions with little to no information. I don’t know why people post it so often.
https://news.sky.com/story/irish-presidents-sister-detained-by-israel-aid-flotilla-organisers-say-13545572
Hahahahahaha
Yeah I’m not British but, thanks to Future of the Left, I know Sky News to be a “hysterical gung-ho Technicolor crapfest” lol
So you post a link to Sky instead???
They were in international waters, not belonging to Israel. Israel illegally boarded their boats and took them captive.
It’s not really surprising that Starmer has said nothing given his strong links to Israel.
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I read it as he hadn’t issued a statement about the British citizens on the flotilla who were also abducted. That seems like a PM thing to do.
The sister of the Irish president (you know, the sovereign country that exists outside the UK!) was only one person on board. They were off the coast of Cyprus, you know, a country that exists in Europe, and has nothing to do with Israel.
The article that you obviously didn’t read, or the one that was linked after that, but decided to add your tuppence worth anyway, Mentions other people on board of the flotilla. I will quote one of the relevant bits for you. I will even bold some of it.
NOBODY in Ireland wants the UK (Especially in this context) to interfere with Irish politics. If you knew anything at all about the history of Ireland and the UK, and the ongoing mess in the North of Ireland, you might have been able to stop yourself sounding so obtuse about this. It also might have helped if you had read the article that people are specifically talking about in this thread.
Get the Brits out!
I would like to think I understand enough to believe it would be offensive if the UK stepped in to intervene on behalf of Ireland. Someone correct me if that is wrong.
The UK wasn’t asked to intervene on behalf of Ireland, and it is very unlikely that they would be. The article specifically mentions that the Irish government have done fuck all too, other than condemn it. They are mostly forced to do that, as the majority of Ireland’s population would be against this.
The article also mentions that there are British people on the flotilla that were also kidnapped/abducted in International waters, illegally, by Israel, and Starmer hasn’t even condemned it. He has said or done nothing about it.
The only reason Ireland is linked, is because one of the people taken, has a famous (in Ireland) sister, who happens to be President, (which is not the head of government in Ireland). There are many more nationalities on board the flotilla.
At least I have an understanding of what actually happened by reading that article. The one in the OP didn’t recount what happened at all beyond summarizing the entire thing as an abduction.
After getting some relevant details, such as the boarding taking place in international waters, the article actually had some value.
There’s been times it’s created articles based on pure theory and conjecture. It was claiming a while ago that TPUSA was deploying blackshirts in the UK when in reality it was just a bunch of Holiness Christians in trackies having a demonstration in SoHo with no relation or connection to TPUSA
The thing most people don’t bother to learn about TPUSA, is that the organization is focused on indoctrination of Christian-Right ideology in schools. They want schools to have a charter to promote their fucked up beliefs. At one point (I don’t know what was made of it) the Oklahoma school superintendent claimed TPUSA charters were something their students (or maybe the parents) wanted and that he would mandate across the state all high school’s have a charter.
I’m talking about the UK. We already have state religion anyway and schools generally have had mandatory religious education and Christian worship during assemblies. We don’t have the same constitutional idea of separation of “Church and State” that the USA is supposed to have, moreso a separation of State and Government. So supporting something like this would just be a simple conservative position rather than something radical
Unlike the UK’s fake religion that everyone knows is fake and is only kept around because without it the monarchy has no legitimacy (also a fake antiquated thing but whatever), American evangelicals actually believe in the evil shit that their religion promotes and endorses them to do.
Or are you saying that killing witches and executing gay people never stopped being mainstream in the UK?
Yeah, it’s just always set off my Spidey tingles.
Even if well intentioned, it’s shitty journalism
I always imagine these sites have a couple people going over the text and they all want to prove their worth coloring the wording. There’s no one there to dial it back down so that’s how you end with with this
Because you’re on Lemmy…