cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/49178
I took my first ride in a Chinese car recently. Not in the U.S., of course, since sky-high tariffs have made them almost impossible to import. I was visiting family in the U.K., and we rented a BYD Sealion SUV. And let me tell you: I saw immediately why American car companies are desperate to have these things kept out of this country. It was elegantly designed, incredibly comfortable, and a smooth ride.
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Chinese Propaganda go brrrrrt.
Also the reasons why we shouldn’t buy Chinese cars are exactly the reasons not to buy American cars because they are guilty of the same shit.
But imagine if we lived in a world where there are other manufacturers?
So buy who’s vehicles? We don’t make anything here.
European, Korean, Japanese.
So same as before, reward the old brands who dragged their heels on electrification until the market forced them to adapt?
Nissan and Renault were among the pioneers, That’s Europe and Japan. So your cranky sour post doesn’t even make sense.
Europe is also far ahead of USA in every way, both on production and implementation.
Japan spend enormous resources trying to get hydrogen to work. Which many scientists continued to claim was the future.
China had a young industry, that requires huge investments to catch up no matter if they chose ICE or Electric. The Chinese government was wise enough to see Electric is the way forward, and gave Chinese makers huge subsidies to encourage them to focus on electric.So please explain what point it is you are trying to make? Because your post makes absolutely zero sense in this reality.
If someone wants to provide an electric car that has zero amenities and is push buttons and manual everything expect for it’s fuel source, I’ll bite. Otherwise I’ll stick to scavenging 80s Subarus.
Is it because:
- They are sold at a loss to unfairly compete?
- They are built using slave labor?
- They are rolling spy machines? -All of the above?
So why are we OK with slave labour for some stuff and jit others? I mean I dont see it brought up so much for other stuff.
Who says we’re ok with it? Two wrongs don’t make a right.
They don’t want you buying them for the same reason they don’t want you buying German or Japanese cars. Its a reasonable expectation for any country to try and protect their local economy.
However the Chinese exploit cheap/slave labor, and in turn we’ve handed them global economic power by allowing our companies (and virtually every other country) to outsource labor to exploit it as well. But that has centralized global manufacturing, which also makes them insanely powerful, and able to manufacture things much more inexpensively.
Add to that government incentives and there’s no way anyone else can compete, because they’re not doing so on an even playing field.
Who are “they”?
That’s not only security concern but also labour abuse. BYD’s Hungary plant is just another case among many:
The BYD factory being built in Szeged, Hungary, is facing scrutiny after reports of EU labour laws being violated among the Chinese migrant workforce.
As the article says,
Asked what conditions are like inside the site, a colleague [Chinese migrant worker] replies: “Nothing out of the ordinary, when you’re a migrant worker.” His supervisors are very strict and living conditions are “quite harsh”, he says
There are also environmental and health risks, as the article says,
Some people in [the Hungarian city of] Szeged feel as if there are too many unanswered questions about how the factory operates. Many were also concerned about health risks.
“The first thing that comes to my mind is infrastructure changes; as far as to what extent environmental factors will be respected, how will this affect us?” Zita, 55, tells the Guardian on the main street. “As a resident of Szeged, I feel that there was not enough information.”
Not to forget social issues,
Questions remain about pressure on housing and the quality of accommodation for migrant workers. Workers in Szeged told CLW of multiple dormitory buildings on the BYD site, six of which were fully occupied with about 450 people each, with an additional 1,000 staff offsite, bringing the total number of workers to 4,000.
Some staff reported working seven days a week “for full monthly cycles except when heavy rain temporarily halted construction”.
As well as ‘debt bondage’,
Those recruited through subcontractors also told how they had to pay fees of between £860 and £2,100 for the job. Those hired directly by BYD paid no fees, it said.
“For workers coming from low-income regions in China, these fees may constitute a substantial debt bondage,” says CLW, which has called on Hungary to “strengthen inspections and enforce labour and migration laws” at the plant.
This is a tiny sample.
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You’re not wrong, but make the point without the ad hominem.
Where did I say the op was wrong because of his personal qualities?
Childish insults by changing their name and unfounded accusations.
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sure, then just say no insults
Again, no different than Nestlé or IKEA getting away with garbage practices when operating outside their own states. A Hungary problem.
