Champix
I tried for years. I finally went cold turkey after finding this website. It really helped to learn that all nicotine is out of your system in 72 hours. After that it’s all mental. I basically just stayed in my pj’s in bed for that 72 hours and it got easier everyday after that. He has a recording for everyday of your quit and every struggle https://whyquit.com/joel/
This is why anecdotes are meaningless in medicine.
Well my dad died coughing up blood and I smoked for 20 years so I’d say it’s a pretty good program and the guy who ran the site helped a lot of people succeed. Learning the science behind the addiction helped me think about it more logically so it’s worth a look for someone who is trying to quit. Sorry that doesn’t mean anything to you but it means the world to me and my family.
I used spite, self discipline and being angry at everything, including the tobacco manufacturers and the government raising taxes on it.
I quit cold turkey. I was alone for a few days, just sat at home being all huffy and puffy and then I got over myself.
I think the self discipline is the most important one. Just get a hold of yourself and do it, stop being a wuss about it.
Seconding spite. A tremendous amount of self loathing and self-flagellation helps too. Cold turkey is the most effective, least expensive, and quickest method. It isn’t easy and is by far the hardest method, though. Haven’t smoked in 23 years as of last week.
Yeah it is the most difficult method, but I think if you just prepare yourself to it, amp yourself up with “I know its going to be hard as fuck but fuck that I’m gonna do it” and it’ll be easier. Lots of fuck yous were said and cursing does help. Just make sure nobody you care about is there to be cursed at lol
Yup, hence the self loathing and self-flagellation. 😁
Waiter, there’s an ad in my AskLemmy 🤢
I have seen many studies that show e-cig has higher success rate than anything else, both short and long term.
One of the reasons is that smoking is not just an addiction it is also a habit.
With e-cig you can break the addiction, while still performing the habitual behavior, and that has been shown to help ease the cravings. No fiddling with your hands when the cravings come, and you even have the calming pleasure of the vapor cloud that mimic smoke visually.The bases of e-cig like vegetable glycerine and propylene glycol, even have the advantage of helping to clean out the lungs from smoking, so your lungs recover faster, while still being considered extremely safe to inhale after more than 70 years of research.
Also using the e-cig as a 2 step solution has higher success rate than anything else, again because you can keep performing the habitual ritual, while stepping down the nicotine. So you are free of any dependency on either the e-cig or other nicotine products or medicine.
e-cig is one of the cheapest yet most effective options, and finally e-cig is the least stressful and among the safest options.
Champix may be among the better options, but it is a way more serious change of the brain chemistry than e-cigs, and may have mood altering effects and cause depression and/or aggression. These are symptoms can also occur when going cold turkey, problem is that Champix does not help against it as effectively as e-cigs do. Champix helps with the cravings, but not other side effects of quitting.
It is also curious how Champix is taken for 3 months, when that is one of the major crisis points for smokers to revert. This is a clear recipe for making people revert after having used Champix, which my tinfoil hat tells me is so they have higher chance of selling the same “cure” multiple times to the same person.
Disclaimer:
I am not a professional, but I have studied these issues very thoroughly, and learned how to read scientific papers to a reasonable degree, to investigate and better understand the issue at the scientific source and better understand criticism of some research papers, rather than just sensationalist journalistic interpretation. The above are all points I have learned through those studies. Except of course the suspicion of Champix treatment ending just a little bit to soon to sell the treatment multiple times.Vapes are OK if you just want the nicotine gone, but its still a habit
Also you need to make an investment first since most cheapo options like dispo or elfa have 20mg nic salts
20 years ago it was a big investment, and was frustrating me because I couldnt afford to save up for one because I was spending all my free money on tobacco.
Nowadays you can get a cheap one for less than a pack of 20 fags. (Probably. Depending on your country I guess.)
Or state, Texas just made it way more expensive with their “Anti-China” regulation, the irony is multi faceted, the so-called “Anti-big gubbment” passing regulation like that, though I’m sure it’s for someone’s enrichment as it always is, most of the big names just moved packaging to indonesia or similar to get around it, and many of the small business owners who own the vape shops are having to close becuase of the increased cost.
It’s all so stupid.
Are you asking “What’s the best way to quit smoking?”?
There’s no one size fits all solution. Keep trying methods until one sticks. It took me a hundred goes to quit.
Thats not helpful
What ended up working tho. The previous part is not as helpful besides tempering expectations if you get my meaning.
Keep trying methods isnt always practical when you’re trying to help someone else with limited willpower and aifetime of addiction to deal with that. My dude isnt necessariky open to trying 500 different methods, i need top 3, probably top 2, please be sensible and pratical
You’re trickling information out about your poorly presented question then telling people who attempt an answer that they’re not helpful.
Cold turkey worked for me…
…that combined with my stubbornness and my worst enemy at work laughing at me and saying I’d never be able to do it.
It’s been ~20 years now…
So it’s high inner motivation. Congratulations, btw.
Good point, motivation is of course always a major factor.
For sure. It was proceeded by many unsuccessful cold-turkey attempts.
*preceeded
“That last cigarette is better than sex trust me ive had about a thousand of them”
Congratulations, that’s a very difficult thing to do if you are a heavy smoker, and usually requires several attempts.
I tried cold turkey a few times with no success. Patches gave me funky dreams but didn’t really stop the urges and ultimately were unsuccessful. I found vapes made it harder for me to breath than cigarettes so they felt like a step backwards. I tried Champix and quit for a year or two, but then picked it back up, then tried it again a few years later and it worked a treat. Coming up on 5 years with no cigarettes.
Champix
There we go. Something helpful to recommend :) Added
It does have some side effects and isn’t necessarily for everybody , but it definitely does what it says on the tin. You basically set a quit date for some weeks into the future and then smoke your brains out til then. The drug breaks the reward pathway so you start to find after a week or two that every cigarette does nothing and tastes bad, and you end up cutting back naturally. The course lasts for long enough to break the habit and then after that the will power to not go back is significantly easier. I believe there are some issues for people with mental health concerns due to the reward pathway fuckery, but your doctor should be able to advise when they are prescribing.
I believe there are some issues for people with mental health concerns due to the reward pathway fuckery,
It appears that people with mental health issues have way more problems to quit smoking than people on average.
The burning of tobacco makes the nicotine combine with other compounds in the tobacco to form MAO inhibitor effect. Which people with mental problems become way more dependent on than other people.For these people e-cigs have been shown to help a lot, despite they don’t have the MAO effect, they help by limiting the abstinence of not smoking by providing nicotine, and probably by providing a reasonably strong placebo effect from “feeling” like smoking in many ways.
For some people with mental problems, smoking can often be seen as an attempt of self treatment.
Except the top methods might not work for you.
Moat effective seems to be weaning off, using the replacement products and slowly reducing nicotine dosages.
Though people are different, have to use lots of trial and error and try again and again. I used the least likely method of price increase to quit cold turkey.
Yeah, you have to find the thing that brings you that intrinsic motivation. I had lots of failed attempts,but for me it was eventually also money. Starting an expensive education, so I convinced myself I couldn’t afford smoking anymore.
Seconding champix. I was on it, and it really helped, but one round (two weeks) wasn’t quite enough, and when I went in to get enough for a longer treatment, champix had been pulled off the market, lol.
It’s now back again with a slightly different formula, so I’ll give it a new go.
Have you answered your own question with that brand name? Was dropping that brand name the point of your post?
No, look closer; that’s an edit. Someone recommended it and they edited it in.
The medicine, Varenicline. I saw a pharmacist on YT that said that, I don’t know.
