Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter with a half-million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. . . . This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

-The Chance for Peace speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, April 16, 1953

How far we have fallen. But . . .

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    Trump spent most of his political career casually mocking the warmongering and deficit hawkery endemic to both the George and Bill administrations (in favor of his own brand of at-home white nationalist police state).

    That was his whole path to victory over the GOP Primary field in '16 and again in '24. He ran - quite literally and explicitly - as a Mussolini style “national socialist”. Nakedly and unequivocally fascist in the 1930s sense of the word.

    Now he’s just another John Bolton / Jim Webb neoconservative. Everything the public soured on decades ago is coming back up like swamp gas. No wonder even lay Republican voters are souring on him. He’s indistinguishable from Jeb Bush.

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    Yes, yes, we’re stealing from social programs to fund a fucked up war machine to support Israel and randomly attack countries for any reason, yes.

    But look, Harris was married to a Jewish man, ok? Morally, it was wrong to vote, or to vote for her. Right .ml? 👍 Plus, she wasn’t 100% onboard with transitioning herself. So. It makes complete sense that we tacitly support this.

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      But look, Harris was married to a Jewish man, ok? Morally, it was wrong to vote, or to vote for her. Right .ml? 👍 Plus, she wasn’t 100% onboard with transitioning herself. So. It makes complete sense that we tacitly support this.

      I reluctantly voted for Harris, however I don’t really see the point of lambasting voters in place of the DNC. If anyone is to blame it is the DNC for backing Biden despite his senility until the very last second, and then choosing not to run a primary.

      The anger you have for abstainers needs to be aimed at the party heads who refuse to support anyone slightly progressive than center-right. If not the “progressive” party is going to continue to put up Ls election after election as more people tired of the system choose to stay home on voting day.

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        Fwiw I also blame the party heads and the ever-failing ‘consultants’. That’s more or less a constant. But this wasn’t, as some would have us believe, two horrible candidates. This was between supporting progressive initiatives and institutions and - well, all this. This fascism, corruption, degradation, humiliation, incompetence, and plain insanity.

        Voting is the last line of defense. Refusing to do it for any reason, after seeing all the horrifying predictions come true, and still promoting it as reasonable or validated is abhorrent.

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      For the umptenth time, they didn’t tacitly support pedohitler! They just didn’t vote for harris because reasons (that they’ll never disclose)!

      On, right, actually, they didn’t vote for her because, since the country was already slowly falling into fascism, why should they vote for something that wasn’t 100% fascist? It’s better to go full fash now so people wake up.

      Yup, that last paragraph is a reply I got from one of them, fml.

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      Yes, yes, we’re stealing from social programs to fund a fucked up war machine to support Israel and randomly attack countries for any reason, yes.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_intervention_in_Syria

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001–2021)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Spartan_Shield

      Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.

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        Right but this is different as it could have been

        Plus openly robbing health and education without even being asked is, well, “new”.

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          DC is bumper-to-bumper guys heading to think tank jobs to lobby the defunding of health and education programs. We’ve been doing this Murray Rothbard’s heyday. It’s one of the various “third-rail” issues of politics that politicians keep getting bribed into grabbing.