• mrmaplebar@fedia.io
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    8 hours ago

    Imagine killing a human being for possession of a harmless plant. It’s wildly unjust.

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      3 hours ago

      Harmless… Until you kill some pedestrian because you DUI.

      You could argue that it is a lack of education about the effect of such substance, but on the other hand, I’ve met enough potheads to know that they know about it, and just have such hubris that they believe those averse effect only affect others. They are “perfectly awake, maaaan” 😅.

      Still, death penalty is far too much for such “crime”.

      Edit : I don’t think using drugs should be a crime, especially one that can warrant the death penalty, but it is unfortunately there. Thus why I use the word “crime”.

      In the case of that man, it is obvious it wasn’t for personal consumption (unless he wanted to fly to the moon and back), so it would be hard to argue he’d be innocent. Death penalty can seem over the top for occidentals, but drugs are considered way harsher in Asia than in Western countries, partly due to the opium wars.

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        have such hubris that they believe those averse effect only affect others

        TBF there is a lot of variability in how cannabis affects different people. I’ve got a friend who had to quit because it made him extremely paranoid, to the point that he’d hallucinate. That isn’t universal by a long shot. I haven’t experienced paranoia or hallucinations, the biggest side effect I’ve experienced is sleepiness. Meanwhile my friend found it harder to sleep while high because his brain kept playing tricks on him. Very different brains, very different results.

        Though I don’t doubt that plenty of people misjudge their abilities while high, just as they misjudge their abilities when drunk. But it’s important to note that it isn’t necessarily hubris that makes a person say, “Weed doesn’t do that to me.” Some of us genuinely experience different effects. You can’t truly know what’s going on in someone’s head unless you’re the one living in it.

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        Weed shouldn’t be a crime. Driving under influence, or tired, or stressed out, should be, but it have nothing to do with cannabis per se.

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          3 hours ago

          I agree with you on that. Weed shouldn’t be illegal, no more that alcohol.

          But saying that it has nothing to do with cannabis is a bit like saying alcohol as nothing to do either. The averse effects on attention is a direct consequence of those substances consumptions.

          It the choice of the user to consume it or not, but as it also impair said persons sens of danger, the choice to go driving despite said substances consumption can partly be attributed to the substance itself.

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        5 hours ago

        lmao as if drivers needed cannabis to be dangerous. Cars should be outlawed, not weed.

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          Cars should be outlawed

          Driving and car ownership in Singapore is cartoonishly expensive and heavily regulated.

          It probably will be outlawed in a decade or so.

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          Cars should be outlawed, not weed.

          Sober drivers kill more people every year than weed alone. If we had to choose between staying home and using weed to get high, or driving literally anywhere, the safest option is to stay home and get stoned.

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          4 hours ago

          As a cyclist, I’d agree, but there are many place where public transportation and bikes can’t go, especially in the countryside. So cars make sense. Cannabis too, as it has a lot of medical uses. But cannabis in car are where it becomes a problem.

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            there are many place where public transportation and bikes can’t go, especially in the countryside

            Are we still talking about Singapore?

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              In that case no. If I remember it well, Singapore is quite small, I suppose bike should be enough for most uses except if you have to move big things, or a lot of groceries, in which case cars makes sense.

              In my case I have a cargo bike, and live near a mid-sized city, so I can just go do my groceries cycling. But someone who is further in the countryside wouldn’t be able to. Partly because of the distance, no one want to do a two hours trip (or more) to buy groceries, but also because having cars zooming past you at 70km/h and more is kinda stressful.

              Case is, cars have uses, cannabis too, but both shouldn’t be used at the same time.

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            4 hours ago

            If you think im dangerous when I’m driving high you should see me sober :3

            (just kidding, I don’t drive)

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              3 hours ago

              Thank god you don’t 😂

              (Just kidding, you do anything you want as soon as you don’t DUI. I’ve seen enough death from that, don’t want anyone else to loose a loved one to one of those assholes)