U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on April 14 that he is proud of Washington cutting off funding to Ukraine amid Russian aggression, listing it among the Trump administration’s top achievements.

Speaking at a Turning Point USA event in Athens, Georgia, Vance recalled being confronted by a Ukrainian-American over his calls to halt funding for Ukraine.

“And this person got really agitated at me because I was saying we should stop funding the Ukraine war,” Vance said.

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    13 hours ago

    Strawman fallacy, these people do not support the genocide, they support electing the lesser evil.

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      13 hours ago

      Lesser evil? Mass slaughtering children is just evil. There is no moral high ground when that is what you support.

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        11 hours ago

        Are you referring to the 2022 bombing of a maternity hospital in Mariupol, the 2024 bombing of a maternity hospital in Kyiv, or the 2025 attacks against children’s hospitals in Kherson, Kharkiv, Kamianske, and Odessa? (These are just the results from the first page of search results.)

        Or are you referring to Russia literally stealing Ukrainian children from their families to try to erase their culture?

        I say those things to say this: We can all pretend to be stupid when it suits us. I know you weren’t thinking of Ukrainian children. It suits me right now to ensure those examples are fresh on your mind.

        The game of politics is still being played even if you chose to make moves that didn’t contribute strategically. The U.S. system is not democratic, and unless it is reformed, voters must compromise their morals to achieve some of their aims. It sucks, but it’s the reality.
        You made a call. You thought it was the most moral thing you could do at the time.

        Rather than attack your past decisions, or try to convince you to see things from my worldview — I want to ask if you could go back in time and explain the current state of the world to yourself do you think you would make the same voting decisions again?

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        Hamas October 7 incursion was arguably a genocide against Israel. For example Israel Gaza: Hamas raped and mutilated women on 7 October, BBC hears:

        In the video, the woman known as Witness S mimes the attackers picking up and passing the victim from one to another.

        “She was alive,” the witness says. “She was bleeding from her back.”

        She goes on to detail how the men cut off parts of the victim’s body during the assault.

        “They sliced her breast and threw it on the street,” she says. “They were playing with it.”

        The victim was passed to another man in uniform, she continues.

        “He penetrated her, and shot her in the head before he finished. He didn’t even pick up his pants; he shoots and ejaculates.”

        One man we spoke to from the festival site said he heard the “noises and screams of people being murdered, raped, decapitated”.

        And Hamas kidnapped 250 Israeli civilians and soldiers were also taken as hostages to the Gaza Strip, including 30 kidnapped children.

        This was straight out an act of war. Hamas, with the majority support of Gaza Palestinians, started this war. While I do not endorse everything Israel has done in Gaza, the basic justification for Israel’s invasion of Gaza to rescue their hostages was 100% legitimate. And Biden and Harris set limits on what Israel could do, unlike Trump.

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          10 hours ago

          “A genocide against Israel”🤣

          This is the sort of shit Democrat voters say unironically.