I’m not Christian (or religious), but I wouldn’t classify the US evangelicals as Christians. Maybe some kind of neo Christians or something, but they’ve drifted very far from the concepts of that religion.
As for Mormons, I don’t even know what they are, some kind of wacky fan fiction that isn’t canon by anyone’s measure, so they’re definitely in their own category.
Yeah I got that from time to time growing up. And as mentioned elsewhere, treating Catholics as not really American. Also got called a devil worshipper about it sometimes.
I left the church over several fundamental issues including women’s rights and queer rights, but I’m still partial to it even though I’m pagan these days. I still can’t fucking stand Baptists.
Baptist are kind of the worst Christian group in my experience. I grew up Baptist. It’s all hate. It’s all denying other people things.
Saying anything they dont like is against Jesus.
Music. Clothes. Wrong haircut.
All banned.
Oh and it’s super racist. The white side is anyway.
Yeah a lot of u.s Christians don’t consider Catholics as Christians but more like a Jew or Muslim. No joke.
Believing that there are intermediaries between a person and the deity is complete anathema to any kind of Muslim (well, there used to be some veneration of Sufi saints, but they didn’t pray for them to intercede). The Jewish religion is also strictly monotheistic, honors its prophets but doesn’t ask them for help.
Catholics are not real Christians because they worship Mary and saints.
All non-Protestant Christians (Orthodox, Coptic, Nestorian, etc) ask Mary and the saints for a kind word to the Guy Upstairs. Some Protestants even do it, though in a toned-down way compared to Roman Catholics. And it’s not quite worship, more veneration, though extreme RC manifestations of the cult of Mary might be an exception. Not that fundies can handle nuance. They’re people who don’t believe communion involved actual wine, that material wealth is a reward from God (with contorted fanfic trying to explain away the proverb of the camel and the eye of a needle), that having any sort of images or things of beauty in a church is idolatry (another belief shared with extremist Muslims), that the King James Bible is God’s inerrant word (despite its dodgy sourcing, occasionally shoddy translation, and obolete English usage that fundies don’t understand) and that their weird 19th-century heretical fractally schismatic sect somehow preserves the practices of the early Christians.
Yeah, I don’t think many catholics realize how close they are to the top of the list after Muslims, gays, and trans people. Atheists might be ahead of Catholics but honestly it might be a wash. Protestants seriously hate them, I got fed a steady drip of anti-Catholic sentiment as a baby Calvinist here in BC.
As someone who grew up catholic, I really don’t know how. Catholic school was very clear about how right wing populism in the US was frequently super anti catholic to the point of hate crimes. And it’s not like protestants are great at hiding the contempt
If you want to know what Calvin was about, look into histories of the time when his followers imposed their insane misrule on Geneva. There were levels of fanaticism and totalitarianism that make the Taliban look like reasonable people, people being burned alive over micro-level sectarian grudges, corruption and extreme incompetence.
Yeah a lot of u.s Christians don’t consider Catholics as Christians but more like a Jew or Muslim. No joke.
Catholics are not real Christians because they worship Mary and saints.
That’s what Ive heard repeated by baptists.
I’m not Christian (or religious), but I wouldn’t classify the US evangelicals as Christians. Maybe some kind of neo Christians or something, but they’ve drifted very far from the concepts of that religion.
As for Mormons, I don’t even know what they are, some kind of wacky fan fiction that isn’t canon by anyone’s measure, so they’re definitely in their own category.
Yeah I got that from time to time growing up. And as mentioned elsewhere, treating Catholics as not really American. Also got called a devil worshipper about it sometimes.
I left the church over several fundamental issues including women’s rights and queer rights, but I’m still partial to it even though I’m pagan these days. I still can’t fucking stand Baptists.
Baptist are kind of the worst Christian group in my experience. I grew up Baptist. It’s all hate. It’s all denying other people things. Saying anything they dont like is against Jesus.
Music. Clothes. Wrong haircut.
All banned.
Oh and it’s super racist. The white side is anyway.
Believing that there are intermediaries between a person and the deity is complete anathema to any kind of Muslim (well, there used to be some veneration of Sufi saints, but they didn’t pray for them to intercede). The Jewish religion is also strictly monotheistic, honors its prophets but doesn’t ask them for help.
All non-Protestant Christians (Orthodox, Coptic, Nestorian, etc) ask Mary and the saints for a kind word to the Guy Upstairs. Some Protestants even do it, though in a toned-down way compared to Roman Catholics. And it’s not quite worship, more veneration, though extreme RC manifestations of the cult of Mary might be an exception. Not that fundies can handle nuance. They’re people who don’t believe communion involved actual wine, that material wealth is a reward from God (with contorted fanfic trying to explain away the proverb of the camel and the eye of a needle), that having any sort of images or things of beauty in a church is idolatry (another belief shared with extremist Muslims), that the King James Bible is God’s inerrant word (despite its dodgy sourcing, occasionally shoddy translation, and obolete English usage that fundies don’t understand) and that their weird 19th-century heretical fractally schismatic sect somehow preserves the practices of the early Christians.
I know they don’t “worship” Mary or the saints. But most protestants believe they do.
I’ve even tried to educate people on this. I’m an atheist mind you. But it falls of deaf ears.
Yeah, I don’t think many catholics realize how close they are to the top of the list after Muslims, gays, and trans people. Atheists might be ahead of Catholics but honestly it might be a wash. Protestants seriously hate them, I got fed a steady drip of anti-Catholic sentiment as a baby Calvinist here in BC.
As someone who grew up catholic, I really don’t know how. Catholic school was very clear about how right wing populism in the US was frequently super anti catholic to the point of hate crimes. And it’s not like protestants are great at hiding the contempt
If you want to know what Calvin was about, look into histories of the time when his followers imposed their insane misrule on Geneva. There were levels of fanaticism and totalitarianism that make the Taliban look like reasonable people, people being burned alive over micro-level sectarian grudges, corruption and extreme incompetence.
Did Hobbes at least talk some sense into him?
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Mormons are up there too.