Although Iran does not border the Bab al-Mandeb Strait, Yemen does, and Iran is closely allied with the Houthis, the Yemeni militant group that previously conducted dozens of strikes against Israel-linked vessels in the Red Sea in 2023 and 2024 in response to the war in Gaza.

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    If the US is hated, it’s probably justified.

    I’m not saying it isn’t. I’m saying, and did say, not to lionize Iran just because you’re mad at Israel and the US.

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      I can be mad at both, and still believe Iran is in the right to defend itself from American and Israeli imperialism first.

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        I can’t support any state that has supported terrorism the way Iran has. There is no justification for that.

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          What about the american terrorism? Glossing over that?

          What I’m pointing out here,

          Is that Americans and Israels have been the terrorist for decades in that region. Assisinating generals they feel like, bombing schools, developing nukes, the list goes on so much more than Iran and its proxies. So o don’t understand how you can primailry denounce the little guy, at the expense of the angry shark in the room.

          Because there likely wouldn’t be as much terrorism, if not for the decades of antagonist behaviours.

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            What about the american terrorism? Glossing over that?

            Nope.

            Because there likely wouldn’t be as much terrorism, if not for the decades of antagonist behaviours.

            look what you made me do!

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              Look at what you made me do

              So you are saying the us shouldn’t have launched the campaign? Because that sounds exactly like how your responding as well. They’re all terrorists, look at what you made me do…

              What makes Iran terorists and the us not one?

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                So you are saying the us shouldn’t have launched the campaign?

                Yes. I haven’t said otherwise - y’all just assume I’m saying whatever the straw-man in your head has ready arguments for.

                That said - terrorism is always the greater evil than military attacking military. You can justify war as “politics through other means” but when you start attacking non-combatant populations you’re in a world of wrong. There is no justification for it. That was Iran’s choice. That they fought back isn’t (necessarily) wrong, but that they have chosen terrorism as their means is.

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                  You say that like the greatest terrorist organisation isnt the US military.

                  What I’m pushing agaisnt is who your letting define twrrosit, because to most west asia (and even east Asia), the terorista are the US military.

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                  This isn’t military attacking military. The US and Israel are bombing schools, universities, water desalination plants, power plants, police stations, and other civilian targets, along with those who attempt to negotiate. This is terrorism, and there is no justification for it.

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                  so US cant be terrorist because it has military org? and bunch of peasants and farmers rising up against imperialism is terrorism? lol you are in deep amrikkkan

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              look what you made me do!

              such a stupid gotcha, would hate holocaust survivor jews for hating all germans or not?