• rozodru@piefed.world
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    Imagine telling someone even like a year or two ago that in this war Iran would be the “good guys”.

    and it’s one of those conflicting good guys cause…well…Iran and all the shit they’ve done to their people. I want to cheer them on for doing exactly this to data centers but at the same time I feel very guilty for doing so.

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      More like antihero. Iran regime is evil, plain and open. But in this evil vs evil conflict they are the underdogs. In sheer military strength it’s not even a close match. They are making do with what they have and hitting the bigger evil where they can hurt.

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        They are showing the rest of the world one needs not bow to the neonazis. (even if it’s a religious nutcase regime showing so)

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        The “bigger evil” eh? The US is the one who killed 10 thousand+ protesters? And the US is the one where women are beaten to death in the streets for showing their faces? Where LGBTQ people worry about a lot more than “can I play sports or use a public restroom?”

        Lemmy has gone stupid over Iran. The two aren’t even close. Iran isn’t a “hero” in any sense of the word.

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          The bigger evil is the one that overthrew their democratically elected government in 1953 to protect British oil interests.

          Women wore skirts, there was freedom and education for all but their government wanted the oil under their country and BP wanted to not pay a fair amount for it.

          This is chickens coming home to roost after 60+ years for the CIA and MI6.

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            This is chickens coming home to roost

            Not even close. Would need to find those BP execs to start.

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              BP was just the company getting the oil. The US and Britain wanted a destabilized Middle East, the govt’s are to blame.

              Now the US fell into a trap. Now they have had to remove sanctions on Iranian oil and Iran has started selling their oil for more money and in Chinese Yuan. They are making money on every barrel they allow through the strait and like it or not they are now a rising world power in opposition to a power in decline, the USA. I hope that that new world power will not be too cruel to it’s people and others but with the position they have been in for the last 60 years, I can’t really blame them if they are a cruel power to those in power in the region.

              I don’t support them being brutal towards those who took them down so long ago and their allies but I’m not surprised.

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              Speaking of chickens coming home to roost, why did Oracle build expensive data centers there of all places? Are they just effing stupid?

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          Iran isn’t threatening the rest of the world though, and Magastan has killed several orders of magnitude more people on every continent. Including its own citizens.

          Also, Magastan is directly responsible for the Iranian regime coming to power in the first place. So these atrocities committed are also blood on Magastan hands

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          The US is the one who bankrolled, enabled and protected a literal genocide, which is worse than everything you just said.

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      USrael is bombing schools, hospitals, residential buildings, water processing plants, orphanages, ambulances, and journalists in Iran, Gaza, the West Bank, and Lebanon. Iran is targeting mega corporations, US bases, IsraHell, military commanders, and politicians AND they are making a ceasefire contingent on ending the genocide in Gaza. I think it’s safe to say Iran are the good guys here. If you believe they slaughtered 80,000 protesters in 48 hours, you’re drinking the CIA koolaid, friend.

      https://thegrayzone.com/2026/02/24/ned-congress-starlinks-iran-violence/

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        In 1960s, Cosmopolitan magazine brainwashed women to wear mini skirts and smoke in public, and I said nothing, because that shit was hott.

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        Iran doing some good things does not mean that it’s not a bad regime.

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          Why are you repeating Trump’s war propaganda for free, helping him and Israel slaughter civilians, journalists, and healthcare workers, and destroy schools, hospitals, and homes? Calling Iran’s democratically-elected government a “bad regime” is not only uninformed and childish but it is harmful—it is helping to manufacture consent among the public of the Western world to support or tolerate the continuation of these evil war crimes being committed against Iran by USrael.

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            Two things can be true. The Iranian regime is bad. The US regime is bad and started an unjust war.

            Also, democratically elected? I must have slept through the last supreme leader elections

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              Just because you weren’t aware of it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

              Masoud Pezeshkian won the 2024 Iranian presidential election on July 6 and was inaugurated July 28. Pezeshkian, who is still president, has criticized the Iranian government’s handling of protesters in the past, is an advocate for the rights of ethnic minorities in Iran (like the Kurds and Azeris), and has appointed two women as Vice Presidents, one as a minister in his cabinet, and a woman as his spokesperson.

              The Ayatollah is the equivalent of the Queen of England + the Archbishop of Canterbury and has both political and religious power, but the president is elected by the people of Iran and runs the country along with various councils. According to the UN, the official leader of Iran is the president, not the Ayatollah.

              Maybe try to diversify your media intake so you’re not only consuming narratives manufactured to support US imperialism and hegemony (I.e. billionaire-owned mainstream media). I recommend reading President Pezeshkian’s message to the American people he posted the other day. We would be lucky to have a president as intelligent and humane as him.

              https://x.com/drpezeshkian/status/2039418009052119190

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                I get my info from plenty of sources, I’m just neither an idiot nor some shill, I hadn’t decided where you fall but if you think the president of Iran is the one calling the shots I’ll go with idiot.

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                    Sources like the fact that Iran openly states that foreign policy is decided by the office of the Supreme Leader? Or that Presidential candidates have to be approved by the (unelected) guardian council? Or do you mean a source for you being an idiot? Sadly I don’t have that

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      Imagine telling someone even like a year or two ago that in this war Iran would be the “good guys”.

      They always have been in conflicts with America/Israel. As it turns out, what America and Israel want for Iran is somehow even worse than the Islamic Republic.

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      You dont really have to consider them the good guys, but they’re the ones who are defending themselves against terrorism