Let’s just declare victory after losing!

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    13 hours ago

    Is Trump going to say that Iran agreed to his terms without any proof? Is he going to bomb them again for not respecting the terms they agreed to in his mind?

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    TACO Trump Tuesday strikes again. Trump makes threats, those he’s threatening laugh at him, mock him and ignore the deadline, Trump chickens out and tries to make up something else to hide the fact he’s failed.

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      Taco is the dumbest shit I think I’ve seen being pushed as a nick name for him. It’s the cringest most forced bot phrase, of the last decade. I don’t think I can handle being on the planet and reading this garbage anymore.

      Like do people think it’s clever, saying the same thing over and over and over and seeing it over and over and over. Is it supposed to be funny?

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        It’s a great indicator that someone is serially online and rarely talks to others. At one of the protests I went to I brought a TACO themed sign and nobody got it. I had to answer “what does that mean?” sooo many times.

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          Well, why did you do it?

          What are you saying he’s backing out of? do you want him to follow through on all the weird shit he says? Would that be better to you?

          It sounds like it’s a far right psyop- “the libs are calling you a weak scared chicken wimp, show them you’re not.” Is the point to antagonize the old demented man?

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            It is a fact. He never follows through. It’s not a message for him, he literally doesn’t think about what other people say because he’s a narcissist. It’s a message for all the MAGA dorks who think they are so tough with a tough guy leader. It’s pointing out just how weak and pathetic they truly are when challenged in any way.

            As for why I made the sign, I’ve made a lot of signs and I only have so many ideas lol.

            Edit: also I left out a part of the story because I forgot. There was one person who clearly did get the message, and it was a scared little snowflake who rolled up all his windows in his emotional support truck even though he was smoking because he was scared while stopped at a red light next to some people with signs. He stared angrily at me specifically thinking he was being intimidating. I laughed at him and it made him big mad. So I guess in a way the sign worked.

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            I think it’s more a finance bro psyop… “Don’t worry about the shit he’s doing, just keep investing, he’ll give up anyway”

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    He really doesnt understand the global markets are interconnected and prices rising on inputs to American products due to logistics costs are the least of our worries.

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    13 hours ago

    well that is a relief… now all the US service men being sent to the meat grinder will die to attempt to reopen a Strait that is not even vital to the war effort

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      Trump already has lost. There’s a Khomeni in charge of the country who is even more hardline than the last with a long queue of replacements should he get killed, they’ve not surrendered, they’re not negotiating and they’re only letting through ships they choose to. They’re still firing missiles at every Arab nation with a US base in it as well as at Israel. They’re still selling their oil. And now the Iran supported Houtis in Yemen have kicked off too, also lobbing missiles at Israel and threatening closing off the Bab al Mandab Strait which is the access to the Red Sea that’ll cut off access to the western oil pipelines Saudi Arabia has.

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        Hijacking comment to point out that both posters of negative scored comments are 12-13 days old and one of them has a gibberish username. Downvote and move on.

        Edit: Cry more, payroll shills.

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      What does that even mean? The world economy, you and me and other innocent people, wants and needs the strait to be open.

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          You don’t need to eat food which needs fertilizer? Or you don’t care if your food costs more, because the fertilizer transit had to pay Iran a toll?

          And even if you don’t personally care about yourself, you don’t care about the poor indian worker, who pay a significant part of his income for food?

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            i care about the poor indian worker. i didn’t start a was that would INEVITABLY cause an oil crisis. if trump gets away with iran, he will fucking do this again and again and again. the poor indian worker will be hurt by trump’s greed and stupidity this war, and the next war, and the next war. that, or we do something about trump. when trump’s a corpse and his admin is in jail, the strait will open the same day

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              when trump’s a corpse and his admin is in jail, the strait will open the same day

              So you think that the terrorist mullahs Iran are just the nicest of people, who don’t care about the $billions of revenue from strait tolls, but just want Trump gone to help the world?

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                Iran didn’t start the war. Any benefits Iran is currently getting are a result of US initiative.

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                  Iran is stealing money from third parties, if Iran is going to toll all ships. There is no moral argument for Iran’s actions here. “US was mean to me” is not an excuse for Iran to be mean to other people.

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                Do i think iranian mullahs are nice people? Nope, i’m not an idiot. However, the strait was open before trump attacked. When the USA is no longer at war with iran, Iran will have no reason to continue attacking shipping. Iran wanted to make a deal: no nuclear weapons in exchange for lifting sanctions. In fact, that exact deal once existed: it was enacted by Obama. Trump, the incompetent fucking idiot, tore it up. Iran was trying to make another deal when America’s talking asshole ordered the attack. Let shit-for-brains wear this one: the Iran war is all on Trump.

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        The straight being open is not mutually exclusive to the US and Israel being defeated. It just means that they tuck tail and accept that in the new order they created Iran has veto power over the straight so they need to stop fucking with it.

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    The guy throwing military parades for himself capitulates and leaves Europe to clean up the mess. Much Wow

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    If you spend billions and end up with that path blocked, I don’t think you can say you “won”.

    Of course you can finish the war capitulating or losing too.

    I’m starting to think either Trump or his acolytes don’t really think.

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    Cool we’ve entered the, “I don’t want it anyway” phase of this bullshit. not sure where this places us in the timeline, but we all know the last step is hyping the massive victory of fixing the problem created by the administration.

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      The Narcissist’s Prayer:

      That didn’t happen.
      And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
      And if it was, that’s not a big deal. <-- We are here
      And if it is, that’s not my fault.
      And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
      And if I did, you deserved it.

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        We’ll move on to the next step once he figures out who to pin the blame on for this. I am guessing he can’t throw Vance under the bus for it since he’s probably on record for saying it was a bad idea. Miller or Hegseth maybe?

        I also don’t see a drawdown happening any time soon, but the market manipulation will continue to work for as long as wall street is willing to kick the football. Not that I care what happens to the fat cats, but my 401k portfolio is not looking great right now either.

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          I am guessing he can’t throw Vance under the bus for it since he’s probably on record for saying it was a bad idea. Miller or Hegseth maybe?

          As far as I can tell, Trump’s mental decline is so advanced that he can no longer create coherent lies. Some of the messaging around the Iran was has been mindbogglingly and transparently stupid.

          So I don’t think Trump will be limited by small details like blaming someone who is “on record for saying it was a bad idea”.

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    “The full reopening of the Strait is something the Administration is working towards, but the core objectives of the operation have been clearly defined for the American people by the Commander in Chief,” Leavitt said.

    No the fuck they haven’t. He doesn’t even know himself other than whatever Israel said to do, otherwise they’ll release the videos of him raping children.

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      When those videos hit the web, everyone will know the people who supported him. We will never let them forget, nor will we let others be ignorant of what they did.

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      You know, I’m not even sure I’ve heard a straight line about what exactly they’re trying to do and what precipitated starting the war.

      There’s been talk about wanting regime change and halting the Iranian nuclear program. But both of those things have been around for what, like 20 years? And the nuclear deal was being worked out over a decade age before trump threw a fit and ripped it up.

      Most wars have a very clear “they did this to us so we have to do this to them in order to secure… blah blah blah.” But with Iran we didn’t really get that. I just woke up one day and the headlines were “surprise, he started another war in the Middle East, checkout this new TikTok trend”

      At least bush had the intelligence to lie about WMDs. Trump just threw a fit and seems hell bent on collapsing the global economy for no reason other than the US hasn’t been bombing as many brown people as it once did.

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        Trump just threw a fit and seems hell bent on collapsing the global economy for no reason other than the US hasn’t been bombing as many brown people as it once did.

        I don’t think it’s just because “brown people bad”. I think his goal is to crash the global economy so he and his buddies (controllers) such as Miller, Vought, Kevin Roberts, Thiel, Andreeson, Musk, aka the technofascists (a la Curtis Yarvin), can get their hands in the system from the ground up to extract even more value from everyone and further control pretty much all of society.

        It really sounds crazy, but they are very vocal about it. Please read, save, and share this info from vcinfodocs.

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      Sure they have - Baby gets what Baby wants. If baby wants the objectives of a war to be Iran sends him a cool fire truck to play with, that’s how he defines “winning” the war that day.