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As a lawyer with over 20 years of experience I can tell with confidence that there is justice in between the same social groups such as lower class vs lower class and middle class vs middle class. Upper class vs upper class is much more unpredictable, depends on many elements and it can go both ways unless one side is coming from old money, has politicians in the family etc… Unfortunately the illusion of justice, freedom and equality ends when you face someone outside your class.
I begged to know if justice
is a form far-out or in
he said son, there is no justice
there’s just what
and that just is.
Hello, I’m not sober and can’t figure out what this means. How do the rich “pay to evade” juice?
Epstein Files is the most recent example of how the rich and powerful evade prosecution.
They know a guy, the guy they know also knows a guy and so on… In this chain of events words goes around from top to bottom to do nothing against these certain special people or there will be consequences.
And those guys who did nothing get secret gifts or have cushy jobs in billion dollar companies after they decide to go to private sector or get financial support when they decide to join politics.
Justice is a spider web.
It’s made to catch small bugs.
Bigger animals just trample the damn thing.If there are reforms, I think that one of them is access to lawyers. Rich or poor, you shouldn’t pay for lawyers. Instead, they are all placed into a common pool, where each side picks their representatives. If both sides happen to pick the same lawyers, they roll a dice in front of the court until someone has the higher number. That person gets the lawyer, and the other side draws someone else of choice from the pool.
I also think that lawyers should rotate in the role they may serve after every case. Prosecution -> Defense -> Prosecution -> Defense, for their entire career as courtroom representatives. If a lawyer refuses to represent, they are barred from serving as a lawyer for four months, and their refusal goes onto a common dossier that anyone can see.
This encourages the whole profession of lawyers to ensure that the courtroom is fair to both defense and prosecution, and that both roles are equally valid when it comes to reputation.
That’s why you all should know that Epstein didn’t kill himself.
Where I come from, there’s a saying that goes something like this: ‘There are only two kinds of people in jail: the very stupid and the very poor.’
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Oh, this post is turning out to be a sad one.Anyway, I’ve heard that mental illnesses and other psychological issues often lead to jail and only get worse in there. Modern societies are not at all prepared to handle these kinds of problems.
Insofar as “modern societies” refer to the people who hold power in them, I’m not so sure modern societies are interested in handling these kinds of problems.
Justice is a luxury the poor can’t afford because the rich pay to evade.
What do the police do with it then ?
They have nothing to do with it.
I disagree. The rich house the police in the USA. The police in the USA don’t own homes frequently in the USA because that information is frequently publicly available. Property records would tie police officers names to an address publicly. So rich people house them for cheap rent in their extra homes to act as protection. No muss, no public records, no fuss, and rich guy has a knight errant available all the time.
Too bad the poor can’t afford to do that.
they use it as a cudgel and beat the poor with it until they submit.
Anyone interested in this area check out Ted Chiang’s short story It’s 2059, and the Rich Kids are Still Winning.
Premise: In the future, scientists conduct an experiment to genetically modify poor children to improve their intelligence, so they have a better chance to succeed in life. While the experiment proves to be successful, and the children’s IQ increases, they still fail to achieve social progress, because the entire state system favors the rich only.
Where do we find this story.
Maybe in one of the two links that other commenters posted to it?
Thanks. That was… interesting but depressing to read.
Anyway, here’s the link in case anyone else happens to be curious.
King
We live in a democracy.
You might, I’m stuck in the United States.
This is the endgame of uncapped lawyer fees.
Pretty much sums it up
The cost of justice is too damn high!
That made me think of a riddle.
The poor beg for my arrival.
The rich never want to see me.
The poor can’t afford my visit.
The rich pay to block my entry.
Who am I?The sweet release of death.
Oh. Good point.
Well, that works too, I guess.I don’t know the intended answer!
Adult Santa Claus
Justice?
Totally.
Also, it’s kinda funny to strictly follow this logic, because it means that the rich still struggle to get justice if the criminals are the rich.
When a rich person screws over another rich person, the one with more money will be able to inflict greater injustice on the other. Either way, this equation involves no justice, and people pay to keep it that way.
Yep 100%
