• BilboBargains@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    The US loves these oil rich, easy to corrupt and control monarchies. They despise the stubborn resolution and independence of Iran.

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    3 days ago

    I’m not surprised at the reaction of the various Gulf nations. While Iran doesn’t deserve to be attacked like it is, it isn’t like Iran was an ally to other Gulf countries.

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      2 days ago

      Exactly, plus: Gulf nations elites and regimes are there mainly due to US money, of course they side with “the west” in situations like these. Russia is just grumpy because they are losing each and every ally all over the world. They’ll need to become a vassal state of China in a couple of decades, provided China will bother.

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          2 days ago

          Please expand, as I really dislike the US and would gladly find out more of what you’re talking about

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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            Iran has been systematically destroying US assets across the region, even mainstream western media is openly reporting on this. These assets took decades to build and cost trillions. They cannot be replaced. The US likely doesn’t even have the skills or the industry that produced a lot of them now.

            Ted Postol, who is an MIT Professor and a former Pentagon advisor, just gave a lengthy interview on the problem with interceptions that I can highly recommend https://youtu.be/gbQI_IYz6uM

            The economics of the war simply don’t work for the US here. Iran is using cheap drones that cost thousands, and the US has to use multiple interceptors for each that cost millions https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/middle-east-crisis-irans-20k-drones-take-on-defences-of-us-worth-4-million/articleshow/129000886.cms

            The logistics for the US are terrible here as well as they have to ship weapons from across the ocean. Iranians are fighting on their home turf. Iran is a huge country, and it has large industry. The US cannot bomb it into submission. You just have to look at Ukraine to see why that’s impossible. Russia has been bombing it for 4 years now, and it’s still there.

            Iran is three times the size. On the other hand, US has fairly limited assets, and Iran absolutely can bomb them into oblivion. And every time the US loses a radar, a weapons depot, or a warehouse, their future logistics get progressively worse. And these problems accumulate.

            Finally, everybody in the region sees this as a war between Iran and US/Israel. After over a year of genocide in Gaza, the sympathies are not with Israel. US backed regimes will have a very hard time going forward if they continue participating on the side of the Epstein coalition. In fact, there was already an uprising in Bahrain, and there will only be more going forward.

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              Since I’m not the one getting bombed, it’s funny how effective Russia and the US have been providing military intelligence to interfere with the other’s war.

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              2 days ago

              Thanks! I would use other words as “getting demolished”, but you linked some points that I have sparsely read on. Let’s see if Ukranian anti-Shahed know-how will affect the efficacy of Irans bombings, could be interesting

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                  2 days ago

                  The point is that the drones being downed, are downed with much less resources than what your comment refers to.

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        2 days ago

        He’s a scummy Soviet spy. Lots of awful people hate America, it doesn’t mean you want to be on their side.

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          “Person who lives outside the west bad”

          “Why”

          “I’m a usa bootlicking reactionary”

          Predictability: 100%

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          Actually, he is a diplomat:

          After graduating from the Moscow State Institute of International Relations (MGIMO) in 1972, Lavrov began his diplomatic career in Sri Lanka and speaks fluent Sinhala, Dhivehi, English, and French, in addition to his native Russian.

          From 1981 to 1988 he held several posts in the Soviet Permanent Mission to the United Nations in New York City.

          Starting in the late 1980s he was deputy director and then director of the Foreign Ministry’s Department of International Organizations before becoming a Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs in 1992.

          He served as Russia’s Permanent Representative to the United Nations from 1994 to 2004, where he gained a reputation for assertively defending Russian interests during crises, including the Kosovo War and the Iraq invasion.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Lavrov

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            You think that just because his Wikipedia doesn’t acknowledge his long history in espionage, he’s NOT a spy? They don’t generally go around with name tags that say “Spy.” They don’t introduce themselves as “Spy.”

            EVERY Russian diplomat is a spy. EVERY ONE. Of course Lavrov is a spy, everyone knows it, and he knows everyone knows it. Except you, apparently.

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              And they all shoot lasers from their eyes and they make bread with bone dust from imported gringo children. Source? Everybody knows it! Except you, I guess