• Greyghoster@aussie.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    4 hours ago

    3 countries driven by religious extremism. What could get wrong? I had thought that this type of thing was well behind us. Seems history has to repeat.

    • towerful@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      34
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      15 hours ago

      You know ACAB?
      I think All Christian Are Bastards as well.

      In the same way the whole “a bar with a single nazi having a drink is a nazi bar” saying goes, and the whole “a rotten apple spoils the bushel”…
      Religions should be the same.

      • scarabic@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        13 hours ago

        Yeah I’m with you on that. I don’t know how any decent person can board the bus of this religion at this point, given how the bus has been hijacked by psychopaths. How up your own ass do you need to be to just show up to church on Sunday and chant hymns? Where are the outraged Christians trying to take their religion back? Nowhere - they just leave.

        • towerful@programming.dev
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          12 hours ago

          Maybe it’s unchristian to be christian?
          Like, suicide bombers justifying innocent deaths because “if they were true believers, god would protect them. And if they are truly innocent believers then they get their paradise afterlife”…
          As if (let’s say all of this is actually true) 1 person gaining eternal bliss because they were collateral doesn’t absolutely fucking ruin so many other lives dealing with that loss.

          It’s all so selfish and self centered

          • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            8 hours ago

            Naw. Their gods are cool with innocents dying.

            Their own scriptures make it clear.

        • KRAW@linux.community
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          8 hours ago

          Where are the outraged Christians trying to take their religion back?

          There is nothing to “take back.” True followers of Christ see through these extremists in government as easily as they see through a some snake-worshipping Christian cult. Christians have always known there will be many that will pervert the truth, so they are not surprised. The problem is people like you just assume they are sitting around endorsing this behavior the media makes it seem all Chritians endorse this behavior, but the challenge is the same as always: true Christians do not have the wealth and power to control political/religious messaging around the world. It kind of goes against some key points in their theology.

          • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            8 hours ago

            You don’t get to excuse yourself just because you think your version of Christianity is the right and they’re not truly Christian.

            They’re using your god to commit genocide. And frankly, if your god is real, he’s probably cool with it.

            Also? The persecution complex you’re rocking is tiresome. You’re not being persecuted so quit it.

            • KRAW@linux.community
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              8 hours ago

              Persecution complex

              I would never claim to be persecuted, but you specifically seem to paint with a broad brush.

              • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                7 hours ago

                This you?

                Yes. yes it’s you. I am not painting you with a brush. “The Media” is not making you (“Level Headed Christians™”) look bad.

                Very few people are saying “all christians”. There are plenty of people who are both christian an standing against this… for example Bishop Budde who more or less called trump out to his face. An most the people who can be construed as saying that usually have some good points as to why.

                It’s unsurprising christofascim crops up because Jesus himself was rather fascist. I know. you’re probably hissing at me like I just sprouted horns and a forked tongue an snake eyes, maybe a heart-spade tail, even.

                But it’s true. Yeah. Jesus said “treat your neighbor as yourself”, but “neighbor” meant something different to him. It was more like “kin”, or maybe “clan”. And the law of Moses that Jesus explicitly endorsed has always made a distinction between Israelite and everybody else.

                But Jesus also said the written law of moses is to remain in place until all time. And yeah. That’s the kind of legal code that expressly permits slavery, forces young women (girls, probably) who were raped to marry their rapists, commands the slaughering of ~60% of women on the nights of their wedding because god doesn’t understand biology, and stoning of disobedient children.

                the peace and love stuff is reserved for the “right” people.

          • architect@thelemmy.club
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            8 hours ago

            Nope. It might be easy not to notice how badly yall push yourselves onto people and children because you think you mean well but its still bad behavior and harming people.

            • KRAW@linux.community
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              8 hours ago

              Sorry, my original comment is a bit accusatory. I did not mean to say you (specifically) are the problem. I intended to say that more level-headed Christians are not what you see portrayed in media because it’s the absolute psychos that are in positions of power, so that’s what you (general) see in the media.

              • towerful@programming.dev
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                25 minutes ago

                Do the level-headed Christians do anything about the non-level-headed Christians?
                Cause that’s what ACAB is about

  • joekar1990@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    16 hours ago

    You mean to tell me the guy whose spiritual leader, Douglas Wilson, who delivered sermons sprinkled with military-themed jokes about putting Jesus Christ first, what Jesus can accomplish through believers, repealing women’s rights, homosexuality should be a crime and that it’s the job of Christians to exercise dominion over the whole world… That guy is raising red flags now? Crusades in the middle east will continue until morale improves I guess.