• dhork@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    This article is paywalled for me, but it’s very important to understand that these people who are leaving are still citizens. It is very difficult (and expensive) to renounce US citizenship.

    So, they are moving abroad, while still retaining their US citizenship. Which includes their right to vote, which can be exercised in the last district they resided in within the US. But Trump sees mail-in voting as a threat, so expect his illegal Executive Ordersto not even recognize that ex-pats have a right to vote at all.

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      3 days ago

      https://archive.is/oLgE7

      I think you are also on the hook to pay American taxes, too. So I guess Pedonald would be taking the “unitary executive theory” all the way to King George territory and we have taxation w/o representation for the expats, too…

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        You already have taxation without representation. Felons pay taxes but don’t get to vote. The citizens of American territories also pay taxes but do not get representatives.

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        Yep, US citizenship is one of the most expensive in the world, due to their uniquely harsh taxation of expats.

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        Expats have to file their taxes but foreign income tax paid is generally deducted from US taxes owed. I think that depends on what agreement is made with the country they reside in though.

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      I also heard US citizens will always have to pay income tax even if they are working abroad and had to pay that country’s income tax already.

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        Sort of. US citizens owe US taxes on their worldwide income, no matter the source. US citizens working abroad also owe taxes to the country they work in. However, the US has tax treaties with many countries that cover how each countries’ citizens are taxed.

        If a US citizen earns income in these countries, they may be able to deduct any taxes paid out to the other country against their US tax bill. (And since US tax rates are low compared to many of these other countries, this often results in zero US taxes owed.)

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      Trump can raise all the executive orders he wants. He just doesn’t have jurisdiction on how states run their elections.

      This doesn’t mean he can’t cause trouble, though. For instance, maybe he can just order the USPS to not deliver ballot mail. Or worse, open it an substitute the ballot inside to one that’s much more favourable to him.

      Obviously, if he does that the US can kiss goodbye to being a representative democracy.

      • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOP
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        2 days ago

        Well, that, and mail-in voting is very hard to disrupt by having people stand around in long lines during a workday or by stationing cops/ICE or whatever outside of voting locations.