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During the campaign, it was kind of hard to picture the specifics of how Trump might pull such a thing off. Alas, it’s getting less hypothetical by the week.
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You know what guys? At this point, I am beginning to think that this Trump fellow is up to no good. It is getting less hypothetical by the week.
This is exactly the situation that the 14th Amendment was created to prevent. Yet our worthless government refused to disqualify Trump from the 2024 election and let him be sworn in despite the fact that all of that was clearly illegal.
The Supreme Court letting him run in direct opposition to the 14th amendment was a moment. There’s absolutely no way to interpret that as ok
What I haven’t seen anyone weigh in on is the scenario where red states suspend their elections, and blue don’t.
I have a hard time believing New York or Illinois would go along with emergency powers halting the election, but I could 100% see Texas or Florida doing so (especially if in those red states there are good indicators of seats flipping blue).
So if even one red state calls off their election, what then? At least for midterms there isn’t a multi-state ballot - but what about the next election? Can a president be elected if some states refuse to have an election?
This shit is so stupid and terrifying and fucking awful.
Yes, the number is electoral votes available just goes down. I suppose you could have only one state voting and have it decide the Presidential election? But you wouldn’t have much of a Congress. Every rep is elected every two years, so the house would be emptied of every non-voting state. The senate would loose 1/3 of its members. Without full elections, we really don’t have a government.
Of course they could have elections but leave the President off the ballot, but I think that would be harder to sell. Even if you somehow felt Trump could have a third, unconditional term, he still has to be elected to that term. How you could have an election but not for President I can’t even imagine.
On Trumps Draft National Emergency Order to take over US elections - (the National Emergencies Act (NEA) and the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) to claim authority over voting procedures.) let’s just say, any attempt to federalize elections would be considered unconstitutional and illegal.
States have control over how they are done as written in the constitution. Also, if SCROTUS allows it, the “We” are no longer a Constitutional Republic.
If Trump is allowed to move forward with this obvious unconstitutional grab for power, allowed by the Dems on a plater with little public outrage, a failed supreme court intervention resulting in no push-back by any checks and balances, then the US Constitution is a lot weaker than americans would have you believe.
The constitution is what gives them all their authority. If they don’t hold it up, the government has abdicated.
Organized force and the subsequent compliance of the masses is what gives authority. The rest is theatrics to give the illusion of legitimacy and popular support. This works quite well…until it doesn’t.
The question becomes: What will the police and military do, when push comes to shove? What will citizens do, and what will the response be?
The police will protect wealth. The military will follow orders if they are made plausibly legal. Which is why a third term really doesn’t hold up. There is no plausible way that is legal.
SCOTUS failing to stop federalization of elections is literally the last possible Rubicon.
Exactly. Everyone was afraid of what would happen when Trump was elected because of what he would do. That is what he would do. Pulling that off means the experiment is over, America will never come back from it.
i’m afraid by the time most people realize how fucked we are it’ll be too late
what happens with the midterm will determine everything moving forward
It’s not a matter of realization but action. “The guy with the enormous constellation of public and private allies plans to do The Big Illegal Thing” doesn’t tell us how we’re supposed to respond.
There’s a certain “well, people should just do something!!!” attitude that is divorced from reality. Everyone wants everyone else to “do something!!!” for them. Vanishingly few people know what is to be done.
Sounds about right, just like Elons PAC aiding trump to win using fraud
a few more peaceful protests will fix that right up
I consider them fire drills.
It’s been so predictable watching Americans sit on their asses for an entire year, openly talking about how this is going to happen and doing fuck all about it. Absolute cowards. Sleepwalking into fascism because they’re too comfortable to throw a punch.
