Let me explain.

Person has 4 kids. Has massive 35 foot long suburban (that they mostly drive alone) to haul them all over the place. Or potentially an RV that gets 2 mpg.

Likely has a mcmansion with sprawling grass yard and sprinklers, with no native plants.

Likely does not recycle or care about the environment in any way. Buys a bunch of cheap plastic shit they dont need on amazon because its “cute” or their kid needs a new toy now that they’re tired of the iPad.

Likely votes against their own interests (cut school funding and health care programs because “those are for brown kids not mine!!”)

In case you think any of this is hyperbole, I can name 10 people I work with who live this exact cookie cutter life.

Honestly, those of us without kids should get a huge tax cut because we are actually benefitting the planet for the stupid parents.

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    This is as dumb as broadly overgeneralizing based on race, gender identity, or any other axis of a person’s life. Just utterly useless and entirely missing the point.

    We are engaged in a full-on class war where the elite of the world have systematically dismantled our institutions and plunged us head-on into fascism, and you’re focused on punching laterally at lazily-constructed caricatures. I’m sure there are plenty of parents that fit that description, just as there many more that don’t.

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      Oh no, its fully the billionaires who are the utmost evil. But they’ve brainwashed a lot of simple minded folk with kids because those people tend to have a lot of fear in their lives (what about the children!!!)

      Again, this is my perspective from the US.

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        You nailed it. Well, they’re trying to be rich, but they’re bankrupt or in debt, temporarily embarrassed millionaires, who vote against their own interests and buy the biggest possible trucks to drive to Walmart in. They dont give a fuck about anyone else.

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          I think its because a well to do childless person is more likely to have a nice downtown condo and walk and take transit whereas with kids it becomes a suburban house with a few cars.

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            This is basically the point I was trying to make. And you think those people with kids volunteer or help the community? In most cases heck no. They’re too busy getting Timmy to soccer to ever care about the well being of their community.

            Note I’m sure Lemmy parents aren’t of this variety, obviously

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              I mean they tend to volunteer more but its school stuff and sorta cause they have to. Its amazing actually when you are at volunteer things how many childless folks are there. Then again there is the whole time thing. When it comes down to it if you have kids that is basically another level of responsibilites. Even just being married increases the load but it also decreases it so its kinda evens out (ideally, depends on realtionship) and kids when they get older should start evening it out to but again it kinda depends. The kids that do volunteer of their own volition are usually pretty great.

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    Look I’m as child-free as they get and certainly don’t think the world needs more humans, but this is a weird take. This is a class war and you got your gun pointed in the wrong direction.

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    You think the majority of parents live in mcmansions and drive suburbans? This is a poorly thought out political rant not a shower thought. Booooooooo

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      I tried to preface this with “what I see In the US”. Your experience may differ. But this subset is a very real one, and they live in areas where their votes count more than you.

      I can say I don’t know a single parent out of maybe 25 immediate people who dont have a massive 4 door pickup (not for work use) or expedition.

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        Yeah I must live in a different United States. You’re saying dumb shit. Having a vehicle beyond your needs is not unique to parents with children. Furthermore, who are you to judge what an individual’s needs are? I double down on everything in my previous statement. Again boooo

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        I’m with you. It all depends on where you live. I live in a relatively affluent area and yeah, the families pile into their Ford Excursions and go to chick fil a. It’s gross and I hate it. What do I do about it? It’s real, so I just move away and pretend it doesn’t exist?

        Edit to add: I still think I should pay into the school system and other social programs, because that’s the deal with community. Good schools benefit the area and you should not get greedy or selfish unless you want to be like “them”.

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    The parents you know sound like they are in a much better position than the ones I know. One mother of 4 I know is literally buying food for their children and parents eating whatever is leftover. Scraps are her dinner most nights. Or the single dad with two kids that takes them picking up trash at the beach for a bit of free fun.

    It sort of sounds like you might be surrounded by rich assholes with more money than brains. They likely should be taxed for numerous other reasons before we get to children.

  • Likely XYZ”

    lmfao what

    so you’re just assuming without even seeing it?

    And you sound like you’re blaming car owners for living in a society that requires cars?

    “From what I see in the US”… “Likely votes against their own interests (cut school funding and health care programs because “those are for brown kids not mine!!”)”… Do you live in some white suburb? Have you even been outside of your white suburb?

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      Nope, I live in maga land though, so these people are a very common sight in the tri state area

      Wrong. I own cars. I don’t own a megacab 4 door luxury truck that drives 1 person around and put me 80k in debt. You dont realize how common this is.