Leaders of the bipartisan delegation said most Americans don’t want to acquire the territory, and thousands of Danes joined “Hands-off Greenland” protests.
Americans don’t want to conquer Greenland; just Trump those paying bribes (billionaires) or using blackmail (Putin)
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Why would anyone trust anything a US politician says, or even signs?
There are less than 10 people on the planet who think this is a good idea, and it isn’t even for a good reason, they just want to keep Trump happy so they continue to manipulate him like a marionette.
You think that we don’t trust you anymore because of Trump? That it’ll pass with an election? You elected him twice. 2nd time after he was convicted for sexual harassment that in most of our countries would be classified as rape. You are unable to stop him when he breaks international law, you are unable to stop him when he breaks your own law. He abuse every value you pretend to care about and your system is unequiped to prevent this or stop it. He brought treat against your allies, and he brought armed thugs against your citizens. You did nothing when he harassed your students for protesting against genocide and you do nothing now after protestor was killed.
He put the anti-science person in charge of your health. He put a tech-bros in charge of your social security. He pardoned violent offender and covers sex traficers. He blame the victims. And he’s still there… He have merch with his 3rd term. And he’s still here.
Either there is no will to stop him, or there are no means.
You are accomplice, or you are all victims and your entire system is a dictatorship in disguise. Vulnerable to humors of any madman that happen to be put in charge.
In either case you can’t be trusted. Any deal and any promise made in your name - either external or internal, made before, during or after trump - can be broken with the expectation of no repercussion apperently.
How could you - The People - be trusted again?
America should never be trusted like it used to be again. As they can flip in a second during an election. They are not a stable partner and I wish the world moves away from them but we won’t as we linked our economies to closely to them. And
Totally valid. This is why we have to deal decisively with MAGA when the opportunity comes around again.
MAGA must be crushed, and purged from our society. The Dems need to IMMEDIATELY declare MAGA to be a serious, ongoing National Security Threat, and ALL MAGA operatives, AND SUPPORTERS, are Domestic Terrorists. We can’t do anything about it now, but we can establish those terms and definitions in the minds of the citizens/voters, and when we regain power we can deal with them from a Constitutional, CRIMINAL perspective, not Politics. They are treasonous criminals, and they should be dealt with as such.
The Dems need to have the courage to follow this through, no matter how loud the Right screams. We warned them it would come to this, and they have nobody else to blame other than themselves. Our Nation, the Word, and History deserve it.
And open votes to good third parties.
The FPTP voting system doesn’t make 3rd parties feasible. You’re going to have to reform the two parties or change viting to something more proportional or preference based.
The parties are irredeemable, but I’ve spoken about changing the voting system even recently.
A future America will have to address the issue of Campaign Finance Reform, the issue from which ALL issues flow. Along with that will come reforms like Federal funding of elections, and offering a larger voice to third parties and independents.
This is a logical conclusion. The people here don’t have the values they pretend to have. Amazingly, all while trashing the rest of the world in a haze of faux superiority.
Or they don’t live in the Rule of Law country. And the ideals are actively ad successfully suppressed. Either way its hard to out trust in their institutions.
This is no different from blaming any country’s people for the actions of its leaders.
Utterly asinine and the pretext to xenophobia.
Your rhetoric will bite you.
People of democratic countries are responsible for action of their leaders, yes. They are the suverein. That’s basicly the first statemant in almost every constytutuin on planet. Do you belive in what’s writen in yours? If you do, you should take responsibility. An you are not trustworthy until you do.
People of dictatorship are not. Are we ready to admit that that’s the case? If you are not the suverain, than you personally probably can be trusted. But your system can’t.
You missed the forest for a tree. It’s not only about voting outcome. It’s about country build on instytutuin that are unable to deal with abuser. If there is nothing that a leader can do that result in him stepping down or being prosecuted, it.is not a democracy.
And if it can be done but you collectively think that that point was not reached yet… Than you should take responsibility.
You are eager to put xenophobic labels on this, missing completly that we were all loyal allays and how many Superman and Capitan America T-shirt I own. You disiapoonted us all.
But OK. Help me fight my bias and and answer me this:
Why should I trust your country?
I never said you should trust America. I said you shouldnt judge Americans for America.
Just as you shouldnt judge North Koreans for North Korea, Russians for Russia, etc.
The people of a nation have 0 control of their leaders.
It is definitionally xenophobic.
Than you didn’t read what I wrote.
Americans voted for the orange shitgibbon twice. You liked him so much you gave him a second term. He represents you nationally and internationally He IS you.
When you say “you” referring to me, an American, you’re describing nothing that resembles me
You’re being xenophobic.
By definition.
Tagged as xenophobe.
Your idiotic country wants to annex my country. And won’t rule out using the military to do it. Americans aren’t stopping the madness. The whole world is xenophobic towards Americans, always the victims, never taking responsibility for the shit they unleashed on the world. Accept that you are hated. And will be for a very long time.
I don’t engage with xenophobes.
Cheers.
As an American I can see their perspective though. In the first Trump admin, we could blame the weirdness of the electoral college process as the majority of the population opted against him. This second term is different though. The majority of the US election participants voted in favor of all of this. At that point, it’s pretty fair to blame the populace for the outcome as the majority of voters actively supported this outcome. I still can’t believe when I overhear folk at restaurants actively in favor of this craziness.
The majority of the US election participants voted in favor of all of this.
No, they didn’t. It’s extremely clear that they cheated in the 2024 election, but the Dems let them off the hook, declaring the election process “Fair & Square” immediately after the polls closed, because winning the election was less important than demonstrating to MAGA what losing gracefully and having a peaceful transfer of power looks, and accompanied by their favorite thing - trademarked Democratic Smugness. They like that better than winning.
As usual, it all came down to the Swing States. He might have won one or two, but he cleared the table, despite not a single poll showing that being possible. The Dems simply accepted that there were MILLIONS of ballots that were straight Democratic tickets, with Trump at the top, and they were ONLY concentrated in these states.
Who votes like that? Does anybody know one? Ever see one on TV? There are millions of them, where are they? They are all concentrated in the Swing States, so they shouldn’t be hard to find, but I’ve never talked to one, seen one, or even heard of one - because they don’t exist. The ballots were changed, obviously.
All they had to do was change the result of one race in only seven states, and he openly enlisted the help of two people in control of the most advanced hacking resources on the planet, who both declared that they were committed to a MAGA victory. Despite the obvious fraud, the Dem leadership played right along, and let it happen, just so they wouldn’t sound like Trump, screaming non-stop about a stolen election, even though it was TRUE!
Everybody in America knows in their heart that this is all true, even the MAGAs. They are so irredeemable that they’d love to brag about how they stole the election from the Libz, but they can’t do that.
When this is over, the Dems should definitely establish the 2024 Election Fraud Scheme, and then declare Trump’s second presidency to be invalid. Roll back all legislation, executive orders, policies, etc. Everybody can have their government job back, with back pay and a signing bonus. Those who have moved on should get pack pay, and severance. He used pardons to cover-up his crimes, and solicit bribes, so ALL of his presidential pardons are invalidated, and they all go back to jail, no exceptions.
I have to tell you that I want to believe I really do. It would be so much better than accepting that the majority of American voters chose this future. In your view, is it just small modifications in swing states which gave Trump the electoral college or do you believe this impacts total vote count to a degree that it changes the overall majority vote count? What I’m getting at is, do you believe the vote manipulation only delivered the electoral college or do you believe that the majority of voters did indeed vote against trump? For me, if it was just the electoral college, it changes little in my opinion of the state of our country. If it’s the actual majority vote, that shows a path to redemption.
I definitely think it was far beyond the actual vote. They didn’t just nudge it enough to game the electoral college, although it’s essentially the same thing - win the popular vote, and you get ALL the Electoral votes. So either way, they are disenfranchising the winning margin.
But winning wasn’t the ONLY objective. They wanted to smooch his big fat porky ass, so they wanted to deliver the first Republican popular vote winner since 1980. So they went a little crazy, and delivered a ludicrously implausible victory.
Millions of straight Democratic ballots, with Trump at the top.
Concentrated in Swing States.
Multiple hacking teams on the case, by foreign Oligarchs.
As if that isn’t adding up for you, add in that he has cheated at literally EVERYTHING in his entire life, and that he absolutely required this victory to avoid a life sentence in Federal prison. Are we to believe that the first time he did ANYTHING without cheating, “Fair & Square,” is the one election that would keep him out of a life sentence in prison?
The Democrats sued in swing states only, to keep De La Cruz off the ballot.
Yeah, and fuck those North Koreans, too. /s
Why haven’t the Russian people stepped up to take care of Putin already?! /s
The people of Hong Kong didn’t do enough. /s
Asinine. Xenophobic.
Are you arguing that those are examples of trustworthy partners?
If you are the suverein - you are responsible If you are victim - your country can’t be trusted
That’s the point.
Literally not even close to what I said.
Its either one or another.
I mean, not to nitpick, but I don’t think one can be xenophobic of their own country. N Koreans can’t vote. Hong Kong couldn’t vote (odd governance structure that didn’t allow them control of their own laws), and Russia is Russia.
The point still stands that Americans are completely incapable of preventing the rise of another Trump.
Even if Americans are literal angels sent down from heaven, that is independent from the fact that they enable the consistent election of shit leaders.
In other words, individual Americans can be trustworthy, but as a group, they are not. Important distinction.
