Shadowbanning is when you can keep replying but no-one can see it and you don’t know that you’re banned.
As I said initially, if every instance was Piefed - you wouldn’t be able to reply in the first place to someone who has blocked you. Whilst that interpretation of blocking could be disagreeable, it’s not what I consider ‘shadowbanning’ as you’re being directly blocked from interacting.
Every instance isn’t PieFed, though. PieFed exists in the context of Lemmy, as Lemmy does PieFed. In its current iteration, it’s shadowbanning at best and more draconian censorship at worst. I understand that you’d be right if we all jumped to PieFed, but given what I consider are its anti-features I never intend to do so, not to mention the deplorable views of Rimu. I know I’m not alone in that.
Every instance isn’t PieFed, though. PieFed exists in the context of Lemmy
I know. I’m just saying that the function is not meant to shadowban as you allege.
Do you think the only reason a software owner developing a social-media type site might have to stop people from being able to reply to those who blocked them is to censor communists?
Do you think the only reason a software owner developing a social-media type site might have to stop people from being able to reply to those who blocked them is to censor communists?
No, and I’ve never made that point, only that it’s a significant portion of how Rimu designs PieFed. Never the only or even the most important, but important enough to have an impact, as proven with censoring Hexbear and Lemmygrad by default.
Your claim that his desire to censor communists plays a “significant portion” here in decisions he has made for the platform is completely and utterly baseless in the first place. The only thing you can point to, so far as I can see - at a platform level, is him censoring Hexbear and Lemmygrad as part of the default packaged federation block.
I can also point to the fact that PieFed has lots of more tools for censorship, in a way that more effectively silences minority opinions, which communism absolutely is on PieFed as most of us are on Lemmy.
Sure., that’s one of them, along with making blocking hexbear and lemmygrad blocked by default so unsuspecting new admins aren’t exposed to leftists, blocking the ability to reply entitely for blocked accounts, etc. Are you trying to convince me to like these features?
Ah, gotcha, misunderstood. It’s been a while since I used Reddit. Still, you’re effectively shadowbanned either way on PieFed, but not on Lemmy.
Shadowbanning is when you can keep replying but no-one can see it and you don’t know that you’re banned.
As I said initially, if every instance was Piefed - you wouldn’t be able to reply in the first place to someone who has blocked you. Whilst that interpretation of blocking could be disagreeable, it’s not what I consider ‘shadowbanning’ as you’re being directly blocked from interacting.
Every instance isn’t PieFed, though. PieFed exists in the context of Lemmy, as Lemmy does PieFed. In its current iteration, it’s shadowbanning at best and more draconian censorship at worst. I understand that you’d be right if we all jumped to PieFed, but given what I consider are its anti-features I never intend to do so, not to mention the deplorable views of Rimu. I know I’m not alone in that.
I know. I’m just saying that the function is not meant to shadowban as you allege.
Do you think the only reason a software owner developing a social-media type site might have to stop people from being able to reply to those who blocked them is to censor communists?
No, and I’ve never made that point, only that it’s a significant portion of how Rimu designs PieFed. Never the only or even the most important, but important enough to have an impact, as proven with censoring Hexbear and Lemmygrad by default.
Your claim that his desire to censor communists plays a “significant portion” here in decisions he has made for the platform is completely and utterly baseless in the first place. The only thing you can point to, so far as I can see - at a platform level, is him censoring Hexbear and Lemmygrad as part of the default packaged federation block.
I can also point to the fact that PieFed has lots of more tools for censorship, in a way that more effectively silences minority opinions, which communism absolutely is on PieFed as most of us are on Lemmy.
What censorship tools are these? Are you going to refer to the reputation issue again?
Sure., that’s one of them, along with making blocking hexbear and lemmygrad blocked by default so unsuspecting new admins aren’t exposed to leftists, blocking the ability to reply entitely for blocked accounts, etc. Are you trying to convince me to like these features?