• Skavau@piefed.social
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    Which is a majority of the reasons people get banned or comments removed from instances but is still called by them censorship.

    People get removed from instances for being heavily downvoted on lemmy? Lemmy doesn’t have a base way for admins to isolate that, to my knowledge?

    Just like how the reply function gets disabled without any mention to user if are blocked

    I’m sure Rimu could add in a notification for that.

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        On some instances and comms absolutely

        No, that was someone banned for downvoting - not for being downvoted. Difference.

        Yeah, I know people can get banned for downvoting in some communities and instances.

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          Ah I had them reversed.

          Point is still this method is essentially shadow banning those being downvoted constantly. There are times it can be trolls but going against the grain in certain instances could get them hidden for simply saying what others don’t want to hear. Especially when political topic.

          Or as it’s lemmy, witch hunts for being a tankie

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            Point is still this method is essentially shadow banning those being downvoted constantly. There are times it can be trolls but going against the grain in certain instances could get them hidden for simply saying what others don’t want to hear. Especially when political topic.

            I agree. Although mostly, 9 times out of 10 its low-effort trolls and spammers that get that. Also it doesn’t really hide anything, it’s just a warning sign.

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              it’s just a warning sign

              For now.

              Although mostly, 9 times out of 10 its low-effort trolls and spammers that get that

              Or in a political environment, or a targeted campaign by instances because someone isn’t pure enough.

              It’s even again in the welcome doc

              The ‘Rep’ column is their reputation. As you can see, some people have been downvoted thousands of times. They’re not going to change their ways, are they?

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                For now.

                I see no reason why it would ever change to do anything more than that.

                Or in a political environment, or a targeted campaign by instances because someone isn’t pure enough.

                If that happened, we would look into it and likely bring it up to the fediverse.

                Also, downvoters like that tend to get instance banned meaning they can’t maintain it.

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                  Because it always starts small then escalates

                  downvoters like that tend to get instance banned meaning they can’t maintain it.

                  Only if they’re downvoting those the admins of the instance like

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                    Because it always starts small then escalates

                    Escalates to what.

                    Only if they’re downvoting those the admins of the instance like

                    I meant banned from other instances as much as I did home-instance banned. But I’d also add that instances that tolerate and endorse the mass indiscriminate downvoting of other people off-instance would possibly find themselves defederated as well.