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The 21-country survey for the influential European Council on Foreign Relations (ECFR) thinktank also found that under Trump, the US is less feared by its traditional adversaries, while its allies – particularly in Europe – feel ever more distant.
The poll, of nearly 26,000 respondents in 13 European countries, the US, China, India, Russia, Turkey, Brazil, South Africa and South Korea, found majorities in almost every territory surveyed expected China’s global influence to grow over the next decade.
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He has made the US the weakest it has been for a long time, probably the weakest it has ever been.
China is making China great. They’re proving to the rest of the world that their economic model is better than the West’s.
It’s why Americans need to artificially inflate the prices of EVs by restricting the sale of Chinese EVs in their country.
Everyone you see driving a Tesla is a moron who played right into the hands of their oligarchs.
Man, I bought Tesla before Trump was elected… and I did that because in Europe there weren’t any alternative for that price… in evs
their economic model is better than the West’s.
Curious, how do you judge that? There are metrics like GDP, GDP per capita, currency exchange rate, etc but being able to compare those means having reliable numbers. AFAIK China stopped publishing some of those metrics (US too! labor related numbers iirc) and the exchange rate does not apply because the RMB is fixed. Going in countries themselves to “check” means little as you can walk through Potemkin villages.
I’m not saying you’re wrong only wondering how you reached that conclusion.
I gave an example with EVs. It’s still fairly new technology, but China has proven that they can make EVs better and cheaper than their Western counterparts. They can do this with fewer resources and lower GDP than the US and other Western nations.
The West has gotten bloated and complacent. All they do now is focus on funneling as much money as possible to oligarchs and grifters. They cannot compete anymore and EVs are a symptom of that reality.
That’s a specific technology with resources they have an advantage on (rare earth elements) with a very shaped market (subsidies, tariffs, etc). Countries have historically been very protective of the car industry. They might very much dominate this market more and more (and arguably justified) yet I don’t think it’s correct to generalize from that example. Also cheaper is not a good metric when the country is known for having work camps or that underpricing a market is in itself a strategy.
Again I’m not trying to downplay the progress made there (because it is impressive) but I think when a comparison is made it has to be done properly. Here there are quite a few factors that make it difficult plus there is an extrapolation from an example that is not necessarily representative of a trend.
All that said this it does not justifies problems in the West, including how slow EV adoption was. Both can be painful yet true.
Don’t worry, in 20 years the US will be part of China too. US declares war with European countries, then gets into war with China, can’t fight 2 fronts. Like nazi Germany.
Makes sense where all the old movies depict mandarin as the main language in space and terra.
I am in the Philippines where, despite being a nominal ally of the US, we have trade with China much more than the US but rather in a way completely displaces my country’s agricultural and industrial capacities, so as a result we are not only consuming Chinese goods as a cheap alternative to Western/Japanese/Korean goods but also locked into a rather vassal relationship (even after Duterte) where Xi feels like he can decide the fate of the Global South.
All the while the Mainland trying to claim all of a body of water mistakenly named for itself and literally taking it as a mark of ownership, which the sea-grab is what keeps Filipinos out of the Chinese-made stupor of a supposed “benevolent relationship”. However, as the US declines, so does the Chinese influence becomes bigger to the point there would likely be more of Duterte and their running dogs kowtowing to Xi and his successors.
The feels when you finally achieve your white christofascist ethnostate, but now you have to learn mandarin because you pissed away all of you international clout and soft power
We’ll see how long that soft power thing lasts when they invade Taiwan. In the end global superpowers are nothing but the biggest bullies on this planet.
And who is going to care?
Did the EU care about Venezuela? No, only when they threaten Greenland.
Why would they rock the boat for Taiwan?
Maduro was hostile to the EU too. Why would the EU help a Russian ally to stay in power? Taiwan however is a friend.
But actually more important then that is that a lot of other countries dislike China and have territorial conflicts with them. India, Japan and the entire South China Sea conflict come to mind. They are all going to respond no matter what the US does. It is also unlikely to only be a kidnapping, but has to be a full invasion.
America might once have cared to defend Taiwan, because the whole tech economy is powered by their chips. But the U.S. is so diminished, overextended, and chaotic that China clearly recognizes an opening.
I think Xi makes a move within the next two years.
Furthermore, Xi seeing that you can wreck foreign countries without consequences or accountability, he won’t think twice about international law when he feels to invade Taiwan.
EU doesn’t care that much about Greenland, either.
The fall of empire is usually documented as stagnation. Trump seems to be trying to be the best in the world, ever, at speed running the end of an empire.
Fucking accelerationism. I live in a country thousands of miles away from California, and yet I am forced to watch the possible fall of a supposed superpower.
The only silver lining is the sheer staggering incompetency at every level
They’re not really ‘doing nothing’
Belt and Road is a LOT of work.
Yes, but it is not China that changed approach radically, it is the US that did…for the worse.
