• Almacca@aussie.zone
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    15 hours ago

    “I don’t think he has the charisma to successfully run for president in modern times,”

    The last thing America needs is another demagogue. They need a janitor to clean up the mess left by demagogues.

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        7 hours ago

        I’d say you want someone charming and intelligent, which can look like charisma, I guess, but when I think of charismatic people, I think of someone trying to con you out of something. Is a different thing.

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          Charm is more basic like the ability to navigate social situations to please others

          Charisma is the confidence and ability to inspire people

          Evil people can be charismatic and they make dangerous leaders but regular conmen are simply charming

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            I guess at this point we’re just quibbling over semantics. Merriam Webster defines charisma as a synonym of charm. :shrug: I just naturally get suspicious of such people when they want something from me, especially my vote.

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        Hunter Thompson claimed that lack of charisma was Jimmy Carter’s fatal flaw.

        Obama was a rare combination of policy wonk who could get people excited.

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          14 hours ago

          can always hire the uncharismatic experts and go-getters but we do need to finally have a charismatic leader with violently good character

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              13 hours ago

              For me to be excited about AOC she has to be to the left of Bernie. The dems wont allow that.

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                  Well when one of them come out as “good” then I’ll let that dumb ass catchphrase that whatever pundit has you all parroting about the democrats carry some weight. I’m not going to let “openly and unjustifyably bad” become synonymous with good.

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                    12 hours ago

                    Well then the solution of course is voting in your country’s primaries to get the people in that you want in, or be the change you want to see in the world and run for office. This is assuming you are an American of course.

                    But sitting in the corner pouting because whomever is running for office hasn’t passed some sort of purity test for you adequately enough is equally as stupid and one of the reasons the United States has the orange moron in charge right now.

                    I don’t have exact numbers in front of me, but their (the US) voter turn out is abysmally low. Added to that protest votes (or non-votes) and the like, certainly showed everyone that the protest voters were Big Mad™.

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          The description I’ve heard is “front of the class minds with back of the class attitudes.” It worked for Obama, it worked for Clinton, and if we don’t recognize that it’s a winning combination we’re going to continue to get fucked in the general elections.