• Krelis_@sh.itjust.works
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    Welcome to Lemmy.ml the idea is that trump accelerates the decline of the west, which is more important than anything else here, including the lives of Palestinians, Iranians, Venezuelans etc. The argument is that it’s not as bad when Trump does it because “at least he’s not a hypocrite”. Social issues in the west (lgbtq rights, worker’s rights) have no significance at all here, if anything the worse the proletariat has it in the west, the sooner they will instigate or at least support a revolution that will hail in the era of global communism, that seems to be the thinking here.

    Edit: the other option is that it’s a far right US or Russian psyop because it’s hard to tell the difference but I say that jokingly as a lot of people posting do seem to care. Just not about the west

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      We aren’t accelerationists, nor do we think Trump is a force for good. Trump is a symptom of a broader, systemic problem.

      Welcome to Lemmy.ml the idea is that trump accelerates the decline of the west, which is more important than anything else here, including the lives of Palestinians, Iranians, Venezuelans etc.

      Nobody believes this. We believe that the DNC is not meaningfully better for Palestinians, Iranians, and Venezuelans, because both parties are imperialist.

      The argument is that it’s not as bad when Trump does it because “at least he’s not a hypocrite”.

      Nobody has made this point. People have said that liberals hate Trump more because he’s more naked about his bloodthirst, because liberals do the same shit with a polite face to it.

      Social issues in the west (lgbtq rights, worker’s rights) have no significance at all here, if anything the worse the proletariat has it in the west, the sooner they will instigate or at least support a revolution that will hail in the era of global communism, that seems to be the thinking here.

      While true that worsening conditions does radicalize people, nobody here is advocating for strategically acting to make things worse, ie accelerationism, but instead organizing.

      Edit: the other option is that it’s a far right US or Russian psyop because it’s hard to tell the difference but I say that jokingly as a lot of people posting do seem to care. Just not about the west

      Communists are neither far-right nor a Russian psyop.

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      The genocide in Gaza was enabled by the Biden administration and continues with Trump. Deceptive of you to pretend that the Democratic Party is better on this. The Biden administration vetoed ceasefire multiple times at the UN.

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        I didn’t suggest that the dems are better on this. Just that trumps regime doing the same thing is more accepted here. Are you suggesting that the situation would be better if a different US president was in place at that time?

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          We do not accept the genocide, whether Trump, Biden, or Harris is in office. The situation would not be better with any of those 3 in office, because the genocide isn’t a personal preference of whoever sits in the White House but instead a systemic aspect of Israel’s settler-colonial project.

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          Just that trumps regime doing the same thing is more accepted here.

          No, it is not accepted here.

          Are you suggesting that the situation would be better if a different US president was in place at that time?

          No, and that’s the point everyone here is trying to make. Both parties are the same except for rhetoric and optics.