• gnarles_snarkley@beehaw.org
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    You’re pathetic. I JUST explained the talking point to you and how pointless it was and you in your infinite wisdom knee jerked yourself into posting it.

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      I don’t think it’s pathetic to combat misinformation that you’re spreading, without even having the decency to provide evidence backing your claims up. You have a knee-jerk reaction to deny anything that disagrees with your internal narrative.

      Claim A: 10,000 people were killed in Tian’anmen Square on June 4th, 1989

      Claim B, Part 1: No, nobody died in Tian’anmen Square on June 4th, 1989.

      Claim B, Part 2: Hundreds of people died around Beijing on June 4th, 1989, including dozens of PLA officers lynched and firebombed, as well as hundreds of rioters.

      Both parts of Claim B are intrinsically tied together, but you read it as distinct claims made by different people to justify your absurd claims.

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        You’re deflecting by focusing on the square and not the pile of mutilated corpses because you cannot defend that.

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          Nope, incorrect. You’re claiming communists that dispel myths about June 4th are practicing “historical denialism” by doing so, and are now moving the goalposts because you know I’m correct about what happened. You’re inventing a motive to suit what you already feel about communists, and don’t even have the decency to make a consistent and clear claim with evidence, just vague posturing and libel.

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            You’re inventing a motive to suit what you already feel about communists

            Incorrect. I like communists. I like communism. I don’t like denialism.

            I would like to be more involved but I cannot in good conscience join any group that participates in denialism and revisionism.

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              The only one in this thread practicing denialism and revisionism is yourself, though, for the purposes of discrediting communists and communism in general.

              Which of these claims do you think is closest to the truth, and which do you think communists are positing?

              Claim A: 10,000 people were killed in Tian’anmen Square on June 4th, 1989

              Claim B, Part 1: No, nobody died in Tian’anmen Square on June 4th, 1989.

              Claim B, Part 2: Hundreds of people died around Beijing on June 4th, 1989, including dozens of PLA officers lynched and firebombed, as well as hundreds of rioters.

              Keep in mind that in my view, as someone that speaks with communists all the time, I have only ever seen communists make Claim B, either in seperate comments or (usually) together.

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                  Lemmygrad.ml, Hexbear.net

                  I genuinely don’t know what you’re trying to achieve, here, are you trying to convince me or others? I clearly have done the research on this topic, and others can see that and the sources I’ve provided. All you’ve done is gesture, so I don’t see who that serves or to what end other than legitimizing me.

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                    I’m not trying to achieve anything other than having a discussion with you. Apparently that’s an unusual concept to you?

                    You’re the one who engaged me. You can’t complain about a conversation you started and continued.