It’s so stupid. People like JD Vance are so stupid. They don’t even consider that they could spin this as a bad event, and the shithead should be prosecuted and that their ICE actions are valid. I don’t agree with ICE and I’m not defending them. But if ICE is valid, then it’s valid that they could fuck up too. It would help their cause to run things in a less toxic way.
But this is asking for nuance from this administration. They’re a bunch of maladjusted sociopaths. And to reiterate: I’m not defending ICE.
At this point they don’t care about looking good. They care about looking powerful. They want people to know they can do this and nothing happens. Look what Miller is saying. We can do whatever we want to other countries because we have the power to do so. Same with ICE here.
These people suck. And there’s 10s of millions in this country that support them. Midterms won’t save us. Only reprogramming them will.
It would honestly make the administration look better if they said “this ICE agent went rogue and will be held accountable. ICE as a whole does not condone this”, but instead, they’re defending it and effectively telling us ICE will continue to kill innocent citizens with impunity. They’re telling us this is what they’re supposed to be doing
It’s one of a few weaknesses they have. The whole “stick to your guns” strong-and-tough-guy ideology makes it impossible to backtrack, quickly pivot, or even feign concern, to achieve a quick tactical victory. All that is tantamount to failure and admitting defeat. Instead, they have to either build a massive smokescreen, lie their pants off, or dig even deeper into an already cursed situation. Then there’s tribalism, making it impossible to publicly throw their own goons under the bus. It’s a stupid and weirdly consistent mindset (i.e. lawful evil), but when it comes to this cabal and their supporters, it’s kind of their whole deal.
Worst part is, it’s not a new thing. It’s a topic of concern for a character in a book I’m writing - where a powerful figure knows she’s wrong on some occasions, but the political atmosphere rewards her more for boasting her righteousness on those issues.
Yeah but he knows that if they think they have to follow rules… Trump supporters that can barely read and write wouldn’t sign up to be jack-booted thugs.
Nuance? I’m valid. If I accidentally walk into a bank demanding money, can you spin that?
ICE is valid, but are way outside the scope they have historically been used for, with a flood of barely trained new people, going where they’re not wanted, to terrorize the population on the flimsy excuse of immigrants. They somehow believe they’re above the law and their victims are beneath it. If your “nuance” is this entire mission is criminal, ok. But there’s no nuance saying you can go this far into depriving people of rights, then claim that executing them is an accident
You had control of that. Others don’t have and they don’t have control of your military turning on them.
No, I don’t get off on US misfortune, but I’m tired of fuckall being done by voters year by year then pissing and moaning when people are threatened and killed.
It’s so stupid. People like JD Vance are so stupid. They don’t even consider that they could spin this as a bad event, and the shithead should be prosecuted and that their ICE actions are valid. I don’t agree with ICE and I’m not defending them. But if ICE is valid, then it’s valid that they could fuck up too. It would help their cause to run things in a less toxic way.
But this is asking for nuance from this administration. They’re a bunch of maladjusted sociopaths. And to reiterate: I’m not defending ICE.
At this point they don’t care about looking good. They care about looking powerful. They want people to know they can do this and nothing happens. Look what Miller is saying. We can do whatever we want to other countries because we have the power to do so. Same with ICE here.
These people suck. And there’s 10s of millions in this country that support them. Midterms won’t save us. Only reprogramming them will.
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It would honestly make the administration look better if they said “this ICE agent went rogue and will be held accountable. ICE as a whole does not condone this”, but instead, they’re defending it and effectively telling us ICE will continue to kill innocent citizens with impunity. They’re telling us this is what they’re supposed to be doing
That would be terrible for their recruiting metrics.
It’s one of a few weaknesses they have. The whole “stick to your guns” strong-and-tough-guy ideology makes it impossible to backtrack, quickly pivot, or even feign concern, to achieve a quick tactical victory. All that is tantamount to failure and admitting defeat. Instead, they have to either build a massive smokescreen, lie their pants off, or dig even deeper into an already cursed situation. Then there’s tribalism, making it impossible to publicly throw their own goons under the bus. It’s a stupid and weirdly consistent mindset (i.e. lawful evil), but when it comes to this cabal and their supporters, it’s kind of their whole deal.
Their cause and purpose is terror and psychological abuse. For that reason they are already on point for serving their cause.
Worst part is, it’s not a new thing. It’s a topic of concern for a character in a book I’m writing - where a powerful figure knows she’s wrong on some occasions, but the political atmosphere rewards her more for boasting her righteousness on those issues.
Yeah but he knows that if they think they have to follow rules… Trump supporters that can barely read and write wouldn’t sign up to be jack-booted thugs.
Nuance? I’m valid. If I accidentally walk into a bank demanding money, can you spin that?
ICE is valid, but are way outside the scope they have historically been used for, with a flood of barely trained new people, going where they’re not wanted, to terrorize the population on the flimsy excuse of immigrants. They somehow believe they’re above the law and their victims are beneath it. If your “nuance” is this entire mission is criminal, ok. But there’s no nuance saying you can go this far into depriving people of rights, then claim that executing them is an accident
This is how the rest of the world has seen the US for some time.
Edifying to finally see what they’ve been seeing isn’t it?
Can we get a single post without comments like this our lives are going poorly enough thank you
Who am I kidding ofcourse not you have to jerk yourselves off to our misfortune
You had control of that. Others don’t have and they don’t have control of your military turning on them.
No, I don’t get off on US misfortune, but I’m tired of fuckall being done by voters year by year then pissing and moaning when people are threatened and killed.
Dude there’s a lot of evidence he literally stole the election, so the people here clearly didn’t want this guy in office.
They either did or didn’t care enough not to vote. Not just this election either.
Tampering is a shitload harder to do when the turnout is something like 80 or 90 percent.
No excuses here.