• eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    the difference here is like that of republicans and democrats; the both do it, but one is significantly worse than the other

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        2 days ago

        This type of pseudo christian “everyone is a sinner🤷‍♂️” analysis stops short of delivering any useful or actionable understanding of what is going on in the world

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          2 days ago

          Yes, as I said, Imperial powers, which includes the entire US government. Right or center right cause there is no left.

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            1 day ago

            the key difference here is that the hypothetical-democrats actually use their leverage against the hypothetical-republicans on the world’s stage and it can result in a felix culpa for humanity if we’re lucky enough.

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              1 day ago

              I’m hoping China completes its transition to communism before any extremely business oriented actors get a hold of it. I promise the capitalists that are allowed to exist over there are plotting and scheming. I just want to see something other than capitalism get a true shot. Or something. I’m tired of living in a world where everything sucks.

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                1 day ago

                The sooner you realize that the American capitalists want westerners to irrationally hate Putin (like this meme points out) the sooner that this world can stop sucking.

                Understanding how the American capitalists use propaganda and controlled narratives (like how the Russian or Chinese capitalists are as big a problem for the world as the American capitalists for example) is the first step to changing this world.

                The fact of the matter is that the Chinese have their capitalists on a leash; the American capitalists have complete control in the United States; and the Russian capitalists are such small potatoes in comparison that they’re almost irrelevant to the discussion.

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                  I’m not gonna pretend like any imperial power is good. The sooner people realize that monolithic power structures are the problem the sooner things will get better. States dont exist to protect people, they exist to control them.

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                    7 hours ago

                    They’re never good, but they’re useful sometimes and blanket dismissals can be wasted opportunities in a world dominated by capitalism.

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                    8 hours ago

                    I think you’d do very well to study a bit more on how imperialism functions. Eldavi is 100% correct in saying the capitalists in Russia are small potatoes, they don’t have imperial power compared to western capitalists. The very fact that Russian capitalists don’t have global hegemony and instead are largely kept within their own borders is why Russian foreign policy strategically aligns them with the global south and against the west, similar to Iran.

                    As for states, they exist to protect the ruling class of a given society. It’s why the US is run by imperialists, Russia is run by nationalists, and China is run by the working classes. All 3 have billionaires and capitalists as a class, but the actual results for people both domestically and internationally are dramatically different. The US Empire is horrible for their domestic working classes and international working classes, Russia is generally horrible for their working classes but plays a progressive role internationally, and China is both progressive domestically and internationally.

                    Reading more on imperialism and the class basis of the state would help a lot with understanding why Marxists take the stances we do.