• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    19 hours ago

    The fact that some predictions are wrong doesn’t mean we can’t analyze trends and trajectories, nor does it mean taking the opposite approach and focusing on static snapshots is better. Again, vulgar empricism denies evolution, geographic shifts, and imperialism. Are you denying evolution, geographical shifts, and the process of imperialism, or are just taking an agnostic stance while doubling down on ineffective methodology?

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      19 hours ago

      I didn’t say you weren’t allowed to do your predictions. I’m sure they’re good predictions. I just don’t put much faith in them.

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        19 hours ago

        Are you allergic to giving a clear answer? Being extremely vague about your claims and refusing to address points I’ve made isn’t helping your case here.

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          You said according theories you believe in that socialist countries will be best of the best and so on. I’m not concerned about the future and don’t really trust these sort of predictions, so what else can even say really. I wanted to be nice and agree that yeah maybe at some point.

          I’m just not very interested in speculation, that’s all

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            I said that socialist countries are better at providing for the working class now. This statement requires isolating variables and taking differences into account when making a comparison, not looking at static and arbitrary comparisons. Further, the decay in imperialist countries and the rise of socialist countries are already ongoing, not processes for the future. You’ve been explained this before and haven’t responded to it, or justified why your arbitrary comparison is better than comparing peer countries and trajectories.

            Same goes with not giving a clear answer on geographical shifts, evolution, and imperialism. Your static snapshot method is wrong.

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              18 hours ago

              I mean the best countries are still capitalist. So eh, once a socialist vountry take that top spot your argument will be stronger. But we’re not there yet.

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                “Best” in what way? A tiny number of countries that fund their safety nets through plundering the global south doesn’t mean capitalism is good at safety nets, it means capitalism forces plunder. You never engage with this point and it sounds like you’re pro-imperialism.

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                  Best in the way we’ve talked about the whole time… Least amount of people living paycheck to paycheck and since social safety nets count, the ones with best of those too. Nordics are top at that.

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                    And it makes no difference to you if these safety nets are eroding, and depend entirely on depriving people in the global south of their own wealth and safety nets? By your logic billionaires have the best safety nets, so being a billionaire is the best system.