• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Socialist countries generally have better safety nets, like China. Even Cuba, poor and sanctioned as it is, takes better care of its poorest than capitalist countries do.

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      China has a shitload of people living paycheck to paycheck in miserable conditions. Up until 2014 (and even still) people outside of cities didn’t even get proper social safety nets. Arguably even some capitalist countries are better off there.

      I’m sure in theory China will have it better than anyone else at some point and whatnot but when it comes to this meme, it’s not a great example tbh

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        China eradicated extreme poverty, and has been extremely consistent when it comes to improving quality of life year over year. Imperialist countries may have higher quality of life in some areas, such as the Nordics, but they are regularly deteriorating thanks to capitalism while China is regularly rising thanks to socialism.

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          Like I said, theoretically it will even better than those capitalist countries, at some point. It’s just not the case yet

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              That’d be fine if those were the two countries in the world, but there’s lots of capitalist and socialist countries

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                  I mean preferably you’d pick top ones to compare, so best in class from both systems. In this case the winner would be from the capitalist side, if your pick was China. That’s what I meant it being a poor example. There’s probably a socialist country that actually beats the capitalist countries when it comes to social safety net and not as many living paycheck to paycheck

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                    China beats the US when it comes to quality of life for those without much money, though. Maybe if you were talking 20 years ago the situation would be different, but China has absolutely surpassed the US. Further, the US Empire relies on imperialism, and has been a developed country for far longer. China at the moment is the world’s most developed socialist country, and it already surpasses the US Empire.