You heard it here…dictator Putin: better than “Kiev”.
It’s completely insane be to be so communist that you stampede past the fact that Russia was corrupted by capitalist oligarchs…and end up in favour an imperialist dictator. What a trip.
I don’t miss that Russia is ruled by nationalists, I quite openly said that they are. Kiev is run by neo-Nazis and is a puppet of western imperialists. Russia isn’t imperialist, it lacks the finance capital necessary to be so, it’s western countries that are imperialist and using Ukraine like they do Israel, to secure their interests in the region. It isn’t at all “insane” to have a grounded and consistent understanding.
You have this incredibly simplistic “good vs evil” thing going on here, and it’s clouding your judgement entirely.
F“Russia sucks at being imperialist” isn’t a great defence. They already took back half the eastern block, sometimes by proxy.
They would have grabbed Ukraine and the Baltics, at least…and maybe Poland (also totally full of Nazis) if the west didn’t “step in”. It is what it is. Just because they’re shit at war doesn’t mean they wouldn’t do it in a vacuum.
Listen…all I’m saying is that there no through lines to good and evil, here. It’s war…it’s a bunch of fascist imperialists fighting other fascist imperialists. At least the western fascist imperialists annex with capitalism instead of by governance. It’s like…I’m not choosing…I’m just talking about it.
My ex girlfriend is the other extreme from you: she’s one of the liberal weirdos who emigrated to Ukraine because she needed a cause, I guess (she has no ties to Ukraine). Yes…she’s ended up at rallies that were Nazi rallies even though she thought they were pro Ukraine rallies…but the country isn’t some monolith of Nazism like you’re saying it it. The Nazis are a powerful minority. Nazis love war…on both sides of the border they’re laughing.
Taking land isn’t necessarily imperialism. Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk all voted to join the Russian Federation, and Russia is annexing them not for resource extraction but to resolve the ethnic cleansing Kiev has levied against the Donbass region, and to create a buffer zone against NATO encirclement. Imperialism is a form of international extraction that functions by maintaining financial domination and monopoly, and using that to super-exploit the global south for super-profits.
There is no evidence whatsoever that Russia is trying to “grab Poland, the Baltics, and the rest of Ukraine.” This is entirely fabricated on your end, Russia has no reason to do so nor is there any information on that.
I’m not saying Ukraine is majority Nazi. I said the leadership is full of Nazis, because the Nazis took power during the Euromaidan coup. The people aren’t all Nazis, just like Statesians aren’t all MAGA, but just like pro-America rallies are almost all MAGA, nationalist rallies in Ukraine draw out the neo-Nazis. The difference between Nazis in Russia and Ukraine is that in Ukraine they actually control the government, in Russia there are just small pockets.
Sometimes you seem like a reasonable person…but it all goes out the window when you present open Russian deception like calling those propaganda tools “elections”. Those referendums were clearly staged by the military…the Crimean one laughably so, with 97% support. You’re also telling on yourself when you use odd language like the annexations weren’t for resource extraction. Who said they were? Crimea is a port and the others are (were) industrial hubs and a land border to the former.
No evidence? See…comments like that don’t make we want to continue with you…and it’s an insult that you expect me not to believe my lying ears. You know very well Putin, Medvedev and many others have repeatedly referred to Poland and the Baltics as occupied & openly bloviated about annexing them. They’ve literally massed forces on the border with them, and every other piece of “evidence” one could possible need…overt or implied. Trying to deny Russkiy Mir is just weird. I didn’t even bring up Finland and all the other regions Russian officials have commented on.
I’m going to take a break from you. Pretty unreasonable stuff, here.
Believe it or not, Crimeans supported being in the Russian Federation and not in a government run by Nazis post-coup. You yourself said Russia was being imperialist, annexation isn’t imperialism, imperialism is a specific form of international extractionism. Annexing territory can happen for a variety of reasons, only some of which is indicative of imperialism.
There is no evidence of Russia continuing beyond the 4 oblasts in Ukraine that isn’t NATO manufacturing consent for protracted war with Russia. Russia has no reason to continue beyond, but NATO has very good reason to want people to think they will.
You heard it here…dictator Putin: better than “Kiev”.
It’s completely insane be to be so communist that you stampede past the fact that Russia was corrupted by capitalist oligarchs…and end up in favour an imperialist dictator. What a trip.
I don’t miss that Russia is ruled by nationalists, I quite openly said that they are. Kiev is run by neo-Nazis and is a puppet of western imperialists. Russia isn’t imperialist, it lacks the finance capital necessary to be so, it’s western countries that are imperialist and using Ukraine like they do Israel, to secure their interests in the region. It isn’t at all “insane” to have a grounded and consistent understanding.
You have this incredibly simplistic “good vs evil” thing going on here, and it’s clouding your judgement entirely.
F“Russia sucks at being imperialist” isn’t a great defence. They already took back half the eastern block, sometimes by proxy.
They would have grabbed Ukraine and the Baltics, at least…and maybe Poland (also totally full of Nazis) if the west didn’t “step in”. It is what it is. Just because they’re shit at war doesn’t mean they wouldn’t do it in a vacuum.
Listen…all I’m saying is that there no through lines to good and evil, here. It’s war…it’s a bunch of fascist imperialists fighting other fascist imperialists. At least the western fascist imperialists annex with capitalism instead of by governance. It’s like…I’m not choosing…I’m just talking about it.
My ex girlfriend is the other extreme from you: she’s one of the liberal weirdos who emigrated to Ukraine because she needed a cause, I guess (she has no ties to Ukraine). Yes…she’s ended up at rallies that were Nazi rallies even though she thought they were pro Ukraine rallies…but the country isn’t some monolith of Nazism like you’re saying it it. The Nazis are a powerful minority. Nazis love war…on both sides of the border they’re laughing.
Taking land isn’t necessarily imperialism. Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk all voted to join the Russian Federation, and Russia is annexing them not for resource extraction but to resolve the ethnic cleansing Kiev has levied against the Donbass region, and to create a buffer zone against NATO encirclement. Imperialism is a form of international extraction that functions by maintaining financial domination and monopoly, and using that to super-exploit the global south for super-profits.
There is no evidence whatsoever that Russia is trying to “grab Poland, the Baltics, and the rest of Ukraine.” This is entirely fabricated on your end, Russia has no reason to do so nor is there any information on that.
I’m not saying Ukraine is majority Nazi. I said the leadership is full of Nazis, because the Nazis took power during the Euromaidan coup. The people aren’t all Nazis, just like Statesians aren’t all MAGA, but just like pro-America rallies are almost all MAGA, nationalist rallies in Ukraine draw out the neo-Nazis. The difference between Nazis in Russia and Ukraine is that in Ukraine they actually control the government, in Russia there are just small pockets.
Sometimes you seem like a reasonable person…but it all goes out the window when you present open Russian deception like calling those propaganda tools “elections”. Those referendums were clearly staged by the military…the Crimean one laughably so, with 97% support. You’re also telling on yourself when you use odd language like the annexations weren’t for resource extraction. Who said they were? Crimea is a port and the others are (were) industrial hubs and a land border to the former.
No evidence? See…comments like that don’t make we want to continue with you…and it’s an insult that you expect me not to believe my lying ears. You know very well Putin, Medvedev and many others have repeatedly referred to Poland and the Baltics as occupied & openly bloviated about annexing them. They’ve literally massed forces on the border with them, and every other piece of “evidence” one could possible need…overt or implied. Trying to deny Russkiy Mir is just weird. I didn’t even bring up Finland and all the other regions Russian officials have commented on.
I’m going to take a break from you. Pretty unreasonable stuff, here.
Believe it or not, Crimeans supported being in the Russian Federation and not in a government run by Nazis post-coup. You yourself said Russia was being imperialist, annexation isn’t imperialism, imperialism is a specific form of international extractionism. Annexing territory can happen for a variety of reasons, only some of which is indicative of imperialism.
There is no evidence of Russia continuing beyond the 4 oblasts in Ukraine that isn’t NATO manufacturing consent for protracted war with Russia. Russia has no reason to continue beyond, but NATO has very good reason to want people to think they will.
Deny reality all you like.