Because Russia has no reason to be invading neighbouring countries?
Idk just a thought. Not sure why we reward the aggressors. Remember that time the Russian backed separatists who totally weren’t just Russian military shot down that airliner?
Oh, of course. This all just happened for no reason, contravening all laws of cause and effect. History began in February 2022.
Reward the aggressor
Who’s rewarding anyone? They’ve won the war all by themselves. This is how war works, not some kindergarten where you can put countries in timeout. To think that acknowledging objective reality is somehow “rewarding” anyone is some real “punish the unbelievers” type shit.
bit of a stretch to characterize this as winning. Russia faced off with a much weaker opponent and has been spinning its tires for years now. the russian economy is in shambles. the most effective russian play this entire war was putting trump back in the white house, but that fucker will be dead before midterms. look at his puffy face and purple hands. he is a walking corpse
Russia has been gradually taking more and more land and strategic footholds. This war is incredibly brutal, and the massive rise in FPV drones that are cheap and deadly forces slow movements, almost like a return to World War I style trench warfare. The Russian economy is still holding on strong, Europe is importing tons of gas indirectly from Russia through alternate channels, and Russia has spent the last decade trying to rely less on unreliable western trade partners. Further, there’s no real evidence of Russia putting Trump in the White House, nor would Ukraine suddenly be winning had Harris been in office.
The word “gradually” is doing some heavy lifting in your post. the economist estimates that russia has only captured an additional 1.45% of ukraine in 3 fucking years. the surge you mentioned has been a month long. it will sputter, just like every other putin blunder. russia has a lot of meat to throw at the enemy and the russian plebs seem remarkably complacent about putin’s misrule, but they can’t sustain this level of pressure.
here’s a chart to put your claim in perspective:
as for russia’s economy being strong - their interest rate is 16.5 percent. inflation is rampant. the us just made it harder for russia to sell oil with new sanctions on lukoil and rosnef. what school of economics do you beong to that calls this situation “holding on strong”?
the evidence that russia influenced the election is pervasive. so many maga influencers have been revealed as foreign accounts. i wouldn’t be too surprised to learn that you yourself are a russian bot, so uncritically do you spout moscow propaganda.
wouldn’t be too surprised to learn that you yourself are a russian bot, so uncritically do you spout moscow propaganda.
Yeah, no shit the “evidence is pervasive” when your standard of evidence for declaring someone a Russian agent is “they disagree with me”
You are a fascist, you are a Nazi ranting about Judeo-Bolshevick conspiracies, you are a McCarthyist ranting about communist subversion of our precious bodily fluids.
There’s no evidence that the collapse in Ukrainian defenses will slow down, rather it seems like it will accelerate as strongholds fall and the war becomes increasingly unpopular. Russia isn’t trying to take all of Ukraine, just the four oblasts, the Economist is trying to frame it as total and complete conquest of Ukraine. When compared to Russia’s actual objectives, Russia is advancing steadily.
Further, Russia does not “throw meat” at the war. Russians are largely supportive of Putin right now because he’s doing a balancing act between appeasing the Russian capitalist class and the rising socialist movements in the public. Russia’s economy is holding strong, the sheer fact that sanctions are still coming out means they haven’t been effective thus far. I belong to the Marxist school of economics, which recognizes actual production over the largely financial western economies.
Your final accusation that I’m a bot for not agreeing with you is just the cherry on top. You give clear examples of liberals manipulating data like the economist graph and using percentages of total Ukrainian territory and not the Donbass region, because when we measure Russia by its ability to achieve its actual goals its clear that its rapidly advancing towards them. You’re quite literally uncritically spouting liberal, western propaganda that falls apart at the slightest prodding.
Because Russia is winning and has no reason to stop. Whether or not anyone is “okay” with Russia winning makes no difference on what the logical conclusion is, which is eventual Russian victory, as Russia is winning and Ukraine is losing even with NATO support. Russia stopping while they are ahead and the war is coming to a close is the least logical conclusion.
By leaving Ukraine right? Thats the only logical conclusion I can think of.
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enjoy your echo chamber
Enjoy your misinformation bots.
Who’s winning the war?
I don’t understand what you think is logical about that
Because Russia has no reason to be invading neighbouring countries?
Idk just a thought. Not sure why we reward the aggressors. Remember that time the Russian backed separatists who totally weren’t just Russian military shot down that airliner?
I am genuinely shocked at liberals inability to understand the difference between is and ought
Oh, of course. This all just happened for no reason, contravening all laws of cause and effect. History began in February 2022.
Who’s rewarding anyone? They’ve won the war all by themselves. This is how war works, not some kindergarten where you can put countries in timeout. To think that acknowledging objective reality is somehow “rewarding” anyone is some real “punish the unbelievers” type shit.
Real life is not marvel comic book that the “good guys” wins over the “bad guys”.
Russia is winning and the logical conclusion is definitely not giving up at the finishing line and turn back. Do you know what logical means?
It’s not a comic book, it’s international relations. You know what would help russias relations? Getting the fuck out of Ukraine.
The logical conclusion is Russia fucks off and leaves other countries alone.
“everyone is twelve” theory of politics continues to be validated, because that is a take a 12 year old would have
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No? Why would Russia stop when it’s winning?
bit of a stretch to characterize this as winning. Russia faced off with a much weaker opponent and has been spinning its tires for years now. the russian economy is in shambles. the most effective russian play this entire war was putting trump back in the white house, but that fucker will be dead before midterms. look at his puffy face and purple hands. he is a walking corpse
This is Qanon tier nonsense
Russia has been gradually taking more and more land and strategic footholds. This war is incredibly brutal, and the massive rise in FPV drones that are cheap and deadly forces slow movements, almost like a return to World War I style trench warfare. The Russian economy is still holding on strong, Europe is importing tons of gas indirectly from Russia through alternate channels, and Russia has spent the last decade trying to rely less on unreliable western trade partners. Further, there’s no real evidence of Russia putting Trump in the White House, nor would Ukraine suddenly be winning had Harris been in office.
The word “gradually” is doing some heavy lifting in your post. the economist estimates that russia has only captured an additional 1.45% of ukraine in 3 fucking years. the surge you mentioned has been a month long. it will sputter, just like every other putin blunder. russia has a lot of meat to throw at the enemy and the russian plebs seem remarkably complacent about putin’s misrule, but they can’t sustain this level of pressure.
here’s a chart to put your claim in perspective:
as for russia’s economy being strong - their interest rate is 16.5 percent. inflation is rampant. the us just made it harder for russia to sell oil with new sanctions on lukoil and rosnef. what school of economics do you beong to that calls this situation “holding on strong”?
the evidence that russia influenced the election is pervasive. so many maga influencers have been revealed as foreign accounts. i wouldn’t be too surprised to learn that you yourself are a russian bot, so uncritically do you spout moscow propaganda.
Yeah, no shit the “evidence is pervasive” when your standard of evidence for declaring someone a Russian agent is “they disagree with me”
You are a fascist, you are a Nazi ranting about Judeo-Bolshevick conspiracies, you are a McCarthyist ranting about communist subversion of our precious bodily fluids.
There’s no evidence that the collapse in Ukrainian defenses will slow down, rather it seems like it will accelerate as strongholds fall and the war becomes increasingly unpopular. Russia isn’t trying to take all of Ukraine, just the four oblasts, the Economist is trying to frame it as total and complete conquest of Ukraine. When compared to Russia’s actual objectives, Russia is advancing steadily.
Further, Russia does not “throw meat” at the war. Russians are largely supportive of Putin right now because he’s doing a balancing act between appeasing the Russian capitalist class and the rising socialist movements in the public. Russia’s economy is holding strong, the sheer fact that sanctions are still coming out means they haven’t been effective thus far. I belong to the Marxist school of economics, which recognizes actual production over the largely financial western economies.
Your final accusation that I’m a bot for not agreeing with you is just the cherry on top. You give clear examples of liberals manipulating data like the economist graph and using percentages of total Ukrainian territory and not the Donbass region, because when we measure Russia by its ability to achieve its actual goals its clear that its rapidly advancing towards them. You’re quite literally uncritically spouting liberal, western propaganda that falls apart at the slightest prodding.
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Incredible homophobia from you. Counteract my points with your own, not mask-off homophobia. Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.
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Ableism too, amazing. Mask-off.
“Hehehe CUM hehe people who don’t support the Ukranian nazi government are GAY for a RUSSIAN man and GAY is BAD and SHAMEFUL huehuehue”
Behold: the liberal ally
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Boring chan dweller shit, nurse your bruised little ego elsewhere
Reality will not follow your delusions.
Oh so we’re okay with Russia being a bully?
Please, for the love of God, learn the difference between is and ought
If China had stepped in to stop Israel’s genocide, we would be having this exact conversation about China.
No it wouldn’t. Don’t be an idiot.
We would absolutely be hearing rhetoric about “Antisemetic Chinese imperialism” blasted at us from every angle, quit being willfully naive.
It doesn’t matter if Russia is a bully or not. Marching off of Ukraine is not a logical conclusion, it will not happen.
Tell me why it isn’t logical
Jesus Christ I swear Westerners are fed through a tube.
Go on
Are you literally 12?
Because Russia is winning and has no reason to stop. Whether or not anyone is “okay” with Russia winning makes no difference on what the logical conclusion is, which is eventual Russian victory, as Russia is winning and Ukraine is losing even with NATO support. Russia stopping while they are ahead and the war is coming to a close is the least logical conclusion.