• SarcasticMan@lemmy.world
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    Everyone needs to temper their expectations on this. They have had them for a long time. They lie like a bad rug. They will have 100% redacted what is released. The only way we will ever see this is through a whistleblower and a leak.

    Otherwise, Donny will die happy on a pile of your money smile on his face, and content in the fact that he will never see justice. Meanwhile, they will crucify the names they dont remove and they will drag it out and use it to persecute everyone they can find darker than Italian and not hypocritical Christian bullshit they claim to be. You LGBQ+, Muslim, Jewish, and anything else not white and evangelical are in for a mighty fine government-funded fucking.

    I pray every night that I am wrong. Good luck out there, it’s going to get spicy.

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    Does everyone forget the entire justice department working overtime to redact trumps name?

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      Hopefully somebody leaks the full unredacted version.

      Or better yet they do the stupid PDF editing where a simple copy/paste retrieves the full text.

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        I mean they left worse traces in the video edit. Like these aren’t the best and brightest working on this.

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          The GOP has morons that were saying they could rewrite millions of lines of COBOL in a matter of “months”, too. So…yeah, if they have geniuses like Elon and Big Balls on the case, I expect some real amateur hour stuff.

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    They can’t be released if there is an ongoing investigation; an investigation into democrats that was just magically ordered by Trump a short time ago, even though there was supposedly nothing to investigate due to it being a democrat hoax.

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      The Epstein files don’t exist, but if they did they aren’t that bad, but if they are it’s no big deal cause I’m not in them, but if I am it’s fake news, and if it’s not it’s because Democrats are in them and it’s all a hoax, and if I did blow bubba he probably deserved it.

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      2025’s “I want to, but I’m being audited.”

      He’ll try do this until people eventually run out of gas.

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      Also he could just ignore the ongoing investigation with an executive act. So let’s see how much he cares about protecting child rapists…

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      Even with an investigation ongoing…

      Obviously they can release evidence. It’s an incredibly stupid plan and only someone completely ignorant of our legal system would release evidence pre-trial…

      That being said, this admin has done it so many times I’ve legitimately lost count, more than a handful of times.

      But trump will have at least one Senator filibuster this, which is why I was really hoping they got rid of it.

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        No, he did not have a single Senator holding it up it passed with unanimous consent.

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        Honestly, he doesn’t need to, All he has to do is have Congress go into adjournment on the 10th day of the bill being in his hand. And then when he doesn’t sign it, it’s supposed to go back to Congress. However, if Congress is adjourned, the bill gets pocket vetoed without the ability to be brought up again.

        I’m partially expecting with how much support has changed so drastically that that’s what the current plan is. Just have Congress go into adjournment. It prevents the house from bringing it up again as the bill gets fully tossed if I understand it correctly

        although I guess that is under the statement that he can get the house to close again

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    How has nobody mentioned the term “pocket veto” yet? He can just stick it in a drawer and never sign it. His lackeys in congress can recess within the 10-day time period (you know, Thanksgiving) and then it’s dead. They have to reintroduce the bill and go through it all over again.

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      If this doesn’t get released, it becomes a bigger deal. Trying to pocket veto this would backfire.

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      No one is going to shut up about this, though. It’s the only issue that has survived the 24 hour news cycle to keep haunting Trump

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    I’m gonna take the title at face value and assume they will be released to Trump. After the senate sends the bill.

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    It seems like there could be a chance that this gets a pocket veto if I understand it correctly.

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      The deal with a pocket veto is that the President has ten days to either sign or veto the bill – but a veto is really returning it to Congress, unsigned. Congress can then try to get enough votes to overturn the veto.

      If he does nothing with it (sign it or return it to Congress) within 10 days, then that counts as having signed it, and the bill becomes law.

      However, that last bit only applies if Congress was able to accept the returned bill that whole time. If the Congress had already adjourned, and could not accept the returned bill, then the bill does not become law.

      However, in recent years it has been made clear that Congress never really fully adjourns until early January, but then immediately reestablishes itself, so it is never fully adjourned. Even while the House was not in session during the recent government shutdown, they held short mini-sessions to make sure that the body never actually formally adjourned. Furthermore, Congress has made arrangements to accept returned bills from the President even when they are not in session (but have not formally adjourned for the term). So Congress would have to go of its way to adjourn early for the pocket veto to work.

      tldr: a pocket veto won’t work unless Congress shuts itself down.

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      Yeah, sticking it in a drawer might be their tactic, but congress would have to not be in session for it to work. If it was unanimously approved by both the House and the Senate, it would normally mean there are enough votes to override a veto, but if he did actually veto I wouldn’t put it past them not to hold an override vote.

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    IF Schumer had forced the breaking of the Filibuster, the senate could over ride this decision on the part of Trump.

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      You need 67 senators to override a presidential veto. It’s unrelated to the filibuster.