• ameancow@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    I say give her a chance.

    You have no idea how many times I saw people saying this about Trump’s first term before he started.

    She has no values, she is a rat sensing the ship sinking before anyone else. They all know when Trump dies there will be zero leadership in the GOP and people are going to swing hard left to avoid the pedo circus.

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      10 hours ago

      I guess you’re right.

      We shouldn’t give republicans the opportunity to redeem themselves. Let’s make sure they’re our enemies for life.

      That’s smart.

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        9 hours ago

        Where the fuck have you been the last few years? You think we’re going back to some kind of Obama-era civility politics? People are being harmed and people will die because of these monsters. We should NOT give them any chance to “redeem” themselves, they should face consequence for HURTING PEOPLE.

        This is some out-of-touch, misplaced sympathy for the devil.

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      22 hours ago

      Seriously this, what has she ever done to earn giving her a chance? The only reason she’s speaking out is because she’s now immediately affected, but couldn’t give a shit before when others were in the same position as she is now.

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      21 hours ago

      You have no idea how many times I saw people saying this about Trump’s first term before he started.

      Believe it or not, I wasn’t born in the past 9 years. I heard it too.

      She has no values, she is a rat sensing the ship sinking before anyone else. They all know when Trump dies there will be zero leadership in the GOP and people are going to swing hard left to avoid the pedo circus.

      uh huh… that changes absolutely nothing about my comment.

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        18 hours ago

        Okay what exactly do you propose we “give her a chance” about? Retaining power? Seeking MORE power?

        Do you genuinely believe with all that’s at stake, we should allow a snake who was openly a snake from the start and been one of the major liars and deceitful MAGA celebrities since the first Trump term, actually keep all she has taken?

        Or by “give her a chance” are you saying: “We should not attack her or call her a liar so that we encourage more people to shift over, even performatively”?

        Because fuck that from the top all the way to the bottom as well. Allowing masked-conservatives and GOP-aligned sellouts to be our representatives is how we ended up with a completely useless democratic party, we don’t WANT them to switch over, we want them to have NO HOME, we need to make actual political and social consequence for aligning with fascists and radicals and domestic terrorists.

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          15 hours ago

          Okay what exactly do you propose we “give her a chance” about? Retaining power? Seeking MORE power?

          She’s historically been pretty terrible. I don’t fault you for thinking that of her. I think it too… however, there’s like a 1% chance she might be genuine. I won’t write her off completely yet. I still don’t like her platform, but I’d prefer someone on the right that actually wants to come up with a plan for healthcare if they’re going to oppose Obamacare. If she says she’s going to tone down her bullshit, I say give her a chance to prove it. It doesn’t mean you have to forget where she came from.

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            9 hours ago

            You still haven’t said what it means to “give her a chance” so I am convinced you’re not being serious here.

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              7 hours ago

              Are you daft?

              In the last comment I said give her a chance to prove it, meaning, you really have nothing to lose by watching what she does for a while.

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                7 hours ago

                Your language is daft. Words have meaning, so when you prescribe something “giving her a chance” that has meaning, it calls for something but you’re dancing around what that something means. And since you STILL are not making even an attempt to clarify that meaning, I will block you and write you off as a child or shill.

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                  6 hours ago

                  Well, ultimately, you don’t really have any choice other than to bitch and cry about her existence (like she does regarding so many others) or you can shut your fucking mouth and deal with it. I could not give a fuck less what you do at this point. Goodbye. Good riddance.