It sounds like a bunch of Democrats want to cave in exchange for no concessions whatsoever. Edit: Bloomberg has more details

Current likely Democratic votes for this:

  • Shaheen - NH
  • Hassan - NH
  • King - ME
  • Fetterman - PA
  • Peters - MI
  • Durbin - IL
  • Warner - VA
  • Kaine - VA
  • Ossoff- GA
  • Warnock - GA

If you want to change things, you need to call their DC office NOW, and leave an email if you can’t.

Edit 2: enough Democrats joined the Republicans to reopen the government with no real concessions.

The list:

  • Durbin
  • Hassan
  • King
  • Cortez Masto
  • Kaine
  • Shaheen
  • Rosen
  • Fetterman
  • Schumer
  • Gillibrand

There was a caucus meeting right before this, so the bulk of the Senate Democrats were likely OK with giving in, even if not willing to vote for it in public

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    I don’t understand what the calculation was here. People were hurting, but a whole lot more people are going to hurt without health insurance come next year. They got:

    • a vote on healthcare extension in December: almost certain to fail and even if succeeding, open enrollment ends 12/15. So you’d potentially be making people gamble thousands of dollars per month that this unlikely vote succeeds and effects them immediately
    • written into the law that federal employees get back pay - which is already federal law
    • reverses lay offs that occurred during the shut down - which were illegal
    • it only funds the government through January. So we’re going to be right back in this situation. And then what - we tell these poor SNAP recipients, “oh sorry, we’re going to need you to go though this whole thing again because we wanted to make sure people could fly home for thanksgiving.”

    Hard to imagine a moderate winning a national primary after this. And what the hell is the republican answer for why it was so important that people not get slightly more affordable healthcare that it was worth starving people.

    I hope that at the least, the re-establishment of SNAP will be quick.

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      This was just a blatant act against the American people by people who’s motivation is money and power and the self-delusion thinking they’re doing more good than harm by preserving the status-quo of letting Republicans shit all over our nation.

      SNAPs benefits max out around 300 bucks a month for an average family.

      The healthcare premiums that these same families are likely relying on will go up between that much and a thousand goddamn dollars a month, or more. I’m already being told by my company that premiums will go up $1000 more by January. What are they supposed to do if they need insulin or other drugs? This is evil, this is an act of hatred against every family and taxpayer. Countless people are going to die because of Schumer and his cronies.

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      And what the hell is the republican answer for why it was so important that people not get slightly more affordable healthcare that it was worth starving people.

      Immigrants. It was always immigrants. They repeatedly blamed it on immigrants “stealing” tax payer money thru ACA even tho that’s not really possible except for extreme circumstances that typically account for less than 1% of the funding for the program.

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        Immigrants. It was always immigrants.

        That was the cover story, they are just continuing to milk Trump’s base for mandate to empty the coffers. There was a lot of money in the ACA tax credits.

        I’m sure though that they’re going to put that reallocated money to good use for families. Sure of it. Any day now.

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        Surely they know that’s not true though (even if they won’t admit it publicly). I just don’t see what the real human rational is. Cut money so you can give more tax breaks to the wealthy? Like how can someone be so callous. How do you justify that to yourself?

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          They believe the “proper” stewards of society are the wealthy. In order for the wealthy to make the best of things, they need that money, so low taxes.

          But the wealthy need something else, a desperate working class that will do anything the wealthy says just so they can eat and have some chance at things like decent healthcare. One of their favorite refrains is “nobody wants to work anymore”, and in part they blame government assistance for this perceived lack of workers or workers that are so uppity as to demand a living wage.

          Of course desperate people can do something other than nicely do the things the wealthy tell them to. So that’s where “law and order” principles come in. Make a big authoritarian police force to discourage the more dangerous path that mass desperation can cause.

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          The rich ones don’t see us as humans and the poor ones like the idea of people they don’t like suffering even if they have to suffer, too.

          There’s your rationale.

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      it only funds the government through January. So we’re going to be right back in this situation.

      They’ll use budget reconciliation, which they apparently can use once a year to pass budget-related bills with a simple majority. They used it up this year to pass the BBB.

      (Cribbed from Reddit.)

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        Wow so they can’t even at least posture that they would refuse to vote to keep the government open if they don’t agree to continue to the subsidies…

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      I hope that at the least, the re-establishment of SNAP will be quick.

      uhhhh. I guess we’ll see. You’re more optimistic than some of us.