Since Trump’s election, gun groups catering to progressives and people of color report a surge in interest as they look to defend themselves in a country that, to them, feels increasingly unstable.

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    Every american should be familiar with how guns work because we have to live in a country with more guns than people. Imagine if you’ve never drove, been inside, or even seen a real car your entire life then one day you have to cross a NYC street. Its hard to be safe without the right knowledge.

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      Every american should be familiar with how guns work

      anddd that’s why i don’t goto the USA

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        Not much you can do when most people in the country already own guns. If someone points a gun at you, you’ll be wishing you had your own. This is mostly an American problem though and we’re fucked. At this point we all need guns because those psychotic fucks are coming for us daily. With how things are progressing so fast I’m just waiting for the day they show up at my door for voting Democrat in a Republican state. I’ve got my guns and I won’t go down easily.

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            I’d love to never have to own a gun. When I was 5 years old a woman put a loaded gun in my face and cocked it to threaten my parents. It’s not a fantasy, it’s a fucking NIGHTMARE. So yes, my fears are a mental illness. Thanks.

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              You are just one of many living in this nightmare. You know what it is like to jump for cover everytime someone shoots a gun in an urban setting? Millions of Americans get to experience this psychological abuse everyday.

              I am sorry to hear your horrible experience. I have lost several people in my life to gun violence. I know women who were raped at gun point. I have had multiple guns shoved in my face growing up. Fuck guns and everyone who defends this shit show.

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                Lol I know exactly what it’s like to jump for cover every time someone shoots a gun, I still have to fight that instinct. There were bullet holes in the front door of my family home and on the side of the house. I was taught to lay on the ground every time we heard gun shots. When I held my first gun 5 years ago I was trembling and crying from fear of the damn thing. I LIVED THROUGH ALL OF THIS. I cannot and will not defend gun culture. When nearly the entire population has them and is willing to use them against you at a moments notice, you don’t have much of a choice. Since I am a woman, and as you pointed out I am at risk, I have more need than a man to conceal carry.

                The point I’m trying to make is bitch all you want about guns in America. Call us morons for having guns, it doesn’t matter. Bitching won’t change anything. Someone has to take all the guns away before a change can be made and I’m willing to bet that’ll never happen in our lifetime. We’ll continue to be terrorized until our deaths. Might as well defend yourself if you can.

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                  I wholeheartedly agree with everything including defending yourself. I do not agree with arming yourself, but that is just because your more likely to be injured.

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            Must be nice to go through life never having to worry about your personal safety. Fuck you and your privilege.

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              I am not a childlike, hence why I know guns are not the solution to your imaginary problems.

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                I didn’t say you were childlike. Use your eyes. Read again. I said you are privileged.

                What’s the solution to a political party using firearms as leverage in a country that puts firearms in its governing document.

                I absolutely LOVE reading these wildly naive takes. Go for it!

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                  I implied you were childlike.

                  I love people who have no clue about the destruction and violence gun culture has caused us. This learned helplessness you have developed is impressive.

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                    What is the solution?

                    You’re quite astute and coming off like a pedantic piece of shit that doesn’t answer questions, but what (if anything) is your actual solution?

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                A fascist government takeover is imaginary? Fuck give me whatever glue you’re sniffing so I can be as dumb and ignorant as you.

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                  Fascists thrive on violence, so if your suggesting that as a solution then you are playing right into their hands.

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                    They don’t thrive on it. They create it. You being weak and submissive to their desires and thinking it makes you right isn’t the win you think it is.

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        I’m not sure how you’re getting that out of what they posted. Reads more “know thine enemy” than power fantasy to me.

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          If know thine enemy is code for living in an oppressive gun nut culture where we lose around fifty thousand Americans to gun violence every year, then sure.

          Number one killer of children in the US and the best we can muster is, “You have got to be familiar with guns because we are surrounded by them.” This is the definition of pathetic resignation.

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            Sorry I forgot that I can just wiggle my nose and make it go away. It’s the reality of the situation, like it or not.

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              Dealing with our problems isn’t easy. I guess we can just go back ignoring it. Cheers!

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                You can acknowledge present reality while also trying to change it. They’re not mutually exclusive.

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                  No one can actually acknowledge what is happening though. Our entire society in the US is in denial.

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                    Yea car-centric society and the boot-licker liberals who support it are indeed the enemy of all people.