• PearOfJudes@lemmy.ml
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      My philosophy is that I personally don’t know any internet personalities, so can’t defend any actions they made unless they are complete lies. When watching the clip, it wasn’t clear Hasan didn’t shock his dog.

      In the video, Hasan yelled at the dog, reached offscreen, the dog yelped, and Hasan didn’t go to help.

      And I am a Hasanabi fan. I greatly appreciate the work he has done for Palestine, and leftists agenda in the west. There is a universe where Hasan didn’t shock his dog, was just annoyed at it, reached offscreen and for a seperate reason (like the dew claw getting caught), the dog yelped. But since none of us know Hasan personally, or privately, we can’t tell.

      Personally, I lay on the side of not believing it, because although there is evidence that the collar was a shock collar, I have seen streams/clips where Kaya runs around freely, greeting guests etc. Either way I will continue to watch him, because I value his political analysis, but don’t freely defend strangers private lives on the internet.

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      It’s kind of depressing to watch so many people just embrace this kind of naked smearing of someone.

      I don’t know Hasan’s work. I know Vaush, and I think he frankly sucks. In either case, I’d rather people just say, ‘Fuck that guy, I don’t like him as a person’ rather than diving into this practice of labeling everyone you don’t like as a pedo or some other flavor of sick abusive pervert. It’s gross.

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      Hasan (left) and Vaush (right). They are streamers and you kinda have to be terminally online to get the joke. Hasan was recently accused of electrocuting his dog on stream, though without much evidence, and Vaush is allegedly into zoophilia

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            Hassan? pretty underwhelming, in short, dog is walking around on this treadmill kind of thing, looks to me almost obvious that his dew claw got snagged on it and he yelps, roughly at the same time hassan’s hand is out of frame for a few seconds (that some are claiming he is pushing a shock remote).

            oh and someone found a 2 year old clip of him saying that his friend gave him a shock collar that is laying around his house but he’d never use.

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              The dog is a girl, the appears to bend her ankle on the dog bed (it’s a stretchy material, the dog bed is like one of those fancy office chairs’ material) and the yell. Hasan was reaching off frame and that is “evidence” that he “must have” been abusing her with a 10000 volt shock therapy to make her gay or something.

              Imagine that we didn’t even needAI to make people believe fake shit with no evidence.

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        neither am i , but im curious to know why , his political beliefs shouldn’t be much different from most people on this platform

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          I’ve just never enjoyed his content tbh. He also encourages faith in American electoralism to an extent that makes me uncomfortable and participates in drama slop too much for me to enjoy.

          I know that last bit may seems strange considering what I have posted but I generally do not directly consume internet drama. I have never seen anything from the channels of either of these people. I just hear about it from other people and go, haha funny.

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          His belief and what he does are totally different. He believes in progressivism, but in practice is a TPOS. I hippo basically.