• lietuva@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    The audacity of Russia and lack of power in EU. When they sent troops, they did not ask for any permission, they just did it. But when there’s talks of sending western forces to maintain ceasefire we are seeking for permission from Russia and debating whether such is needed at all.

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      5 hours ago

      Being very much a consensus based talk-shop of competing interests and varied points of view is both the EU’s weakness and it’s greatest strength: it takes ages for it to act but when it does, it does so in a far more organized way, with more staying power and better long term results than the “rush in, break shit up, rush out leaving it all broken” of players like the US (as seen in places like Iraq and Afghanistan).

      The “American Way” has a lousy track record of delivering stability by itself (did it ever manage to do so after WWII?) whilst the EU Way has a lousy track record of actually going all the way to the stage of actually doing something (though it tends to act in ways other than the military).

      In the long run I think the EU’s way delivers much better outcomes for everybody involved, if and when it does manage to get around to actually act in an assertive way.

      In summary, then EU is pretty shit when it comes to immediate reaction and at actually doing anything but it works in long-running situations which are complex to untangle and creating long term stable outcomes.

      A good example of the EU Way is the handling of the break up of Yugoslavia, though one could say it was more a cooperation of the American Way and the EU Way.

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    19 hours ago

    Doesn’t look like they were deciding whether NATO sends in troops. It looks like they were deciding to bomb any NATO troops that entered Ukrainian territory.

    And now NATO states get to decide whether they’re eager to expand the scope of the conflict even further. My money is on a bunch of terminally online hype-beasts on the internet screaming “Hell yeah!”, while the more conservative and conflict averse financial and military leadership in Europe drag their heels.

    That’s assuming the AfD doesn’t take over the German federal government entirely and straight up align itself with Russia.

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      19 hours ago

      with Russia.

      and USA.

      The Afd is also linked to USA ( Pete Hegseth/ Musk) and especially via the Heritage Foundation. The one which wrote Project 2025 ( or Mein Kampf edition 25).

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              18 hours ago

              Which is just Russia with a paper mask

              Ah, then I misunderstood your “That” reference.

              Could be, but unclear. The history of what we call Fascism now is very old. Could be two parties working together or one for the other. It seems though afaik, that their agenda to dismantle democracy coincide per they both being autocratic. Do you perchance have any links w/info?

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              18 hours ago

              Why would the US billionaires go along if Trump would be controlled by Russia?

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        19 hours ago

        Mein Kampf edition 25

        Sadly, we’ve regressed. Mein Kampf was written from prison. This shit was written from Curtis Yarvin’s substack.