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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 12 days ago

Som interesting data 🤔

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Som interesting data 🤔

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bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 12 days ago
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  • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
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    Well yeah.

    You’re not going to see a significant suicide rate, if the people who might kill themselves, are killed by something else first. Mostly looking at NK.

    As for China, their population is so large that almost any bad stat looks small. Zoom in on someplace like Hong Kong, and the stats go right back to concerning.

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      But if per capita stat is small isn’t it just a good thing in general? If you cut up the population groups into multiple population sized chunks with the compared countries, they each will still have a better number.

      It’s like we normalized stats PER CAPITA so population number don’t really affect it!

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        That’s not really my point.

        You can’t cancel out bad things with good things.

        That China averages out to stats that look OK, doesn’t make the stuff happening in HK or Xinjiang go away.

        If you cut up the population groups into multiple population sized chunks with the compared countries, they each will still have a better number.

        Not necessarily. If you average everything, that hides any outliers.

        The bigger the sample size for your stats, the less it tells you. You could have an entire country’s worth of people in China, living in conditions that lead to horrible stats, and have that essentially disappear in the stats of the whole country.

        You should break stats down into smaller chunks. But not just arbitrarily. Do it by province, city, district. That’s how you find the problem areas. The bigger the area you measure, the less the stats tell you about the individual citizens.

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          That China averages out to stats that look OK, doesn’t make the stuff happening in HK or Xinjiang go away.

          What’s happening in HK & Xinjiang?

          Previously:

          The UK’s 99 year lease to subjugate the people of Hong Kong ended, a lease which had been forced upon Imperial China at gunpoint during the century of humiliation. Hong Kong reintegration after the lease expired was a foregone conclusion. The last minute, US-backed attempt at color revolution failed. It was the so-called “revolutionaries” who brought the brutality, by the way.

          Previously:

          The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once its efforts failed, it made lemonade out of its lemon by concocting and promoting a genocide narrative.

          The only countries pushing this narrative are the “always the same map” imperial core countries, which just so happen to be largely the same ones supporting Israel’s genocide.

          Almost no predominantly-Muslim country buys the Uyghur genocide narrative, because they know it’s bullshit, because they talked to the Uyghurs themselves.
          https://twitter.com/un_hrc/status/1578003299827171330 #HRC51 | Draft resolution A/HRC/51/L.6 on holding a debate on the situation of human rights in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of #China, was REJECTED.

          • The Uyghur Human Rights Project is a product of the National Endowment for Democracy, which is the American government’s main regime change NGO.
          • A Reddit AMA Claiming To Be A Uyghur Quickly Exposes A CIA Asset Slandering China
          • The Xinjiang Genocide Allegations Are Unjustified
          • Uyghur genocide allegations
          • American Debunks All Major Western Propaganda on Uyghurs and Xinjiang
          • US-Funded Uyghur Activists Train as Soldiers of Empire
          • The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
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      Hmm I wonder why Hong Kong specifically would have a concerning suicide rate

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        Perhaps higher, because Hong Kong was under British imperialist control until recently, and was capitalist until recently, like Taiwan and South Korea are.

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          The increase is recent, and still rising.

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      You’re not going to see a significant suicide rate, if the people who might kill themselves, are killed by something else first.

      Unless you have evidence that such a hypothetical is actually occurring, why float it?

      As for China, their population is so large that almost any bad stat looks small.

      That’s not how per capita rates work.

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