cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/33487836
By MEE staff
Published date: 21 July 2025 21:11 BSTThe New York lawmaker voted against an amendment by Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene last week that sought to block $500m in Congress’ annual defence spending bill for Israel’s Iron Dome programme.
Fellow Democrats Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar [as well as Democrats Al Green of Texas, Summer Lee of Pennsylvania and Republican Thomas Massie of Kentucky - PL] had supported Taylor Greene’s amendment, which eventually lost in a 422-6 vote.
In a post on X on Saturday, Ocasio-Cortez claimed that Greene’s amendment did “nothing to cut off offensive aid to Israel nor end the flow of US munitions being used in Gaza”.
Explain how the statement is pro genocide?
Literally giving aid to Palestinians or threatening to stop funding Israel is seen as helping the aggressor protect itself from the consequences of their actions. Pretty straightforward. A lot of people see all the genocide as 100% justified.
Hamas did some really brutal shit. That doesn’t justify murdering people.
Only person here making pro-genocide arguments here is you.
Fucking both-siding genocidal fuck.
You’re not clever and it is clear what you are doing.
Edit: to be absolutely clear: you are pro-genocide and you’re trying to justify it by sounding anti-genocide. But you, personally, are bad at rheoteric, and it would be clear to a child what you are doing.
Israel should be their own nation. No money for anything to a country committing genocide.
Agreed
Only one country is committing genocide.
Furthermore, resistance against occupiers is not only legal but enshrined in international law.
Apartheid countries, like Israel, are inherently occupiers.
I agree on the first part.
On the rest, are you saying you support the Oct 7th attacks?
Are you saying that you think violent resistance against people killing and kidnapping your children is wrong?
How would you resist people killing and kidnapping your children?
Do you condemn John Brown? Do you condemn the ANC’s violent resistance against the apartheid government of South Africa? Do you condemn the black people of Rhodesia fighting their occupiers?
Or, maybe a better example of your moral cowardice, you would have condemned the Warsaw Uprising.
EDIT: Do you you also demand people condemn Nat Turner?
You really called me pro-genocide because I said you should be careful justifying “consequences”, and you’re out here advocating BUTCHERING women and children.
You’re literally the same as them. Bye.
I called you pro-genocide because you are trying to imply that the palestinians are morally the same as the IDF. Get it right if you’re going to try and reference what I said.
You’re literally justifying genocide. Bye.
How does restricting Israel’s defense assets from the United States, which they are perfectly capable of manufacturing on their own, result in murdering people? Is the United States immediately going to strike Israel with missiles?
The only people claiming that giving Aid to Palestinians is funding terrorists are Israel in the United States everybody else pretty universally agrees they giving Aid the Palestinians is not funding “terrorist” groups. This is an especially stupid example given the fact that Bibi has admitted to funding Isis groups to disrupt Hamas activities as recently as last month.
Yeah so did the Germans in World War II. That’s a wonderful argument you’re making. 🤦
So I’m going to predict you’re not going to give me a straight answer because you and I both know what the answer actually is. But let’s try this again so that you can at least try to prove that you’re not just a fool who came in here without any fact to back up your opinion.
How does removing $500 million of United States tax dollars from the Israeli defense assets endorse genocide, and as a follow-up, justify murder?
The real problem is how she handled it. It’s a weak, but coherent, position.
She’s crashing out over it. She’s responding to genuine criticism with accusations of being fake leftists… It’s not a good look
I’m not commenting on all the bait. Most of that is you arguing with an imaginary person in your head. Hurting innocent people is bad. Fuck Hamas and IDF. Take from that whatever you want.
But this is funny.
It’s like you ALMOST got what I was saying. But you’re so wrapped up in yourself that you missed where I was saying genocide is bad.
You’re such a coward.
Couldn’t answer the very simple question of how restricting funding to Israel is endorsing a genocide or justifying murder.
I was entirely right in my prediction of your response in my last comment. This is an excellent example of a red herring fallacy and a great way to try and avoid answering the above question.
This yours? 🙄
I never said it did. There’s your answer.
Like I said, you missed literally the only point I was making. And you’re not interested in changing that.
Keep being angry at nothing.
War crimes supporters should leave lemmy. You add nothing here.
I don’t support war crimes. But I’m seeing it on this thread unfortunately.
Would you mind reading the username there?
Wow. Eptiome of honor here. I bow to your “holy” presence.
Definitely not a cowardly intellectually dishonest sophist.
Do you think all consequences of aggressors are justified?
EDIT: accidentally responded to the wrong person
Still not an answer to the question. One that you posed.
I see you’re dodging your own quotation.
I think imposing any consequences on the aggressors of a genocide would be a good start.