I appreciate the response, but I think you’re incorrect. This might be the sentiment in your peer group, but it doesn’t square with what we always end up seeing play out nationally.
Rather than celebrating “swatting down” my “idiotic take” I suggest you engage in a bit of self reflection.
If you think Democrats are losing nationally simply because they’re not progressive enough, it’s because you do not have a clear understanding of national politics. That’s fair though, because it helps to drive home my point, because the bloc of voters who swing elections do not have a firm grasp on national politics, either.
Yours is a daft take and if the Democrats proceed with this mental framing, they’ll continue to lose elections. You think you’re right, but same same people who think like you do were the ones making decisions for the Harris/ Biden campaign. This kind of take is presented as wisdom, and yet, when proceeding with it, Democrats consistently lose in its application.
Lets start it off right: firstly and most importantly, bloc’s of voters don’t move elections, and haven’t for almost 30 years. Going after “swing voter” has been a losers approach, and when the Republicans gave up on this strategy in 2000, they began defining the modern political hegemony we find ourselves in, and have found great success. Modern elections aren’t between two parties. They are between each of the two parties, and their likely voters respective couches.
The two most successful political movements in the previous 40 years have been a) the MAGA movement, and b) the progressive movement. Both found their footing in identifying and acknowledging the real pain people experience in their lives, and giving them something to do about it it: vote, march, dial, campaign, etc.
The Harris/ Biden campaign ran in almost direct opposition to all of the movement the base had in developing the progressive platform. It focused almost entirely on the basically fictitious “centrists” and moved entirely away from the base. They refused to be honest with voters about both Biden, his adequacy as candidate, and his competency in office. They elevated Republican voices while simultaneously pushing away their own core constituencies.
If you continue to both think and campaign using the political hegemony which died almost 10 years ago, you will not win elections.
Maybe try to explain, then, your “clear understanding of national politics”? And square that understanding with the fact that the most successful Democrats in recent years have been Bernie and Obama.
I appreciate the response, but I think you’re incorrect. This might be the sentiment in your peer group, but it doesn’t square with what we always end up seeing play out nationally.
Rather than celebrating “swatting down” my “idiotic take” I suggest you engage in a bit of self reflection.
If you think Democrats are losing nationally simply because they’re not progressive enough, it’s because you do not have a clear understanding of national politics. That’s fair though, because it helps to drive home my point, because the bloc of voters who swing elections do not have a firm grasp on national politics, either.
Yours is a daft take and if the Democrats proceed with this mental framing, they’ll continue to lose elections. You think you’re right, but same same people who think like you do were the ones making decisions for the Harris/ Biden campaign. This kind of take is presented as wisdom, and yet, when proceeding with it, Democrats consistently lose in its application.
Lets start it off right: firstly and most importantly, bloc’s of voters don’t move elections, and haven’t for almost 30 years. Going after “swing voter” has been a losers approach, and when the Republicans gave up on this strategy in 2000, they began defining the modern political hegemony we find ourselves in, and have found great success. Modern elections aren’t between two parties. They are between each of the two parties, and their likely voters respective couches.
The two most successful political movements in the previous 40 years have been a) the MAGA movement, and b) the progressive movement. Both found their footing in identifying and acknowledging the real pain people experience in their lives, and giving them something to do about it it: vote, march, dial, campaign, etc.
The Harris/ Biden campaign ran in almost direct opposition to all of the movement the base had in developing the progressive platform. It focused almost entirely on the basically fictitious “centrists” and moved entirely away from the base. They refused to be honest with voters about both Biden, his adequacy as candidate, and his competency in office. They elevated Republican voices while simultaneously pushing away their own core constituencies.
If you continue to both think and campaign using the political hegemony which died almost 10 years ago, you will not win elections.
Maybe try to explain, then, your “clear understanding of national politics”? And square that understanding with the fact that the most successful Democrats in recent years have been Bernie and Obama.
Thanks for taking the time to politely remind these lemmy users they are in an echo chamber.
I agree that running a female candidate will lose votes. It wont lose my vote, but it will lose enough votes to potentially lose the election.