If Ukraine is able to replace or recover damaged vehicles why is Zelensky still asking for more tanks (in Switzerland right now)? I thought the sanctions were going to trigger massive inflation and unrest in the Russian economy and their desire to support the war would disappear. I thought the Russians were out of ammunition last year and now they’re bombing relentlessly. I though their morale was so low they were going to capitulate when this attack happened, yet their first main line of defensive trenches hasn’t yet been touched. If Ukraine morale is high and Russian morale is low why are Ukrainians surrendering or refusing to fight on the front lines?

Austin told us all that he had high expectations for the counter-offensive two days before the Pentagon leaks revealed there were actually low expectations. Why believe the boy who already cried wolf, especially when his words don’t align with reality? There’s been too much lying. The war is costing too much in terms of tax payer dollars and Ukrainian lives. This Biden administration is stuck is a sunk cost fallacy and needs to stop.

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    The government of Russia is still committed to this war, and as long as this is the case the sanctions against Russia and the military support for Ukraine just continue.

    The fascists should not win this fight.

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          I mean, that’s probably a liberal democracy in a nutshell - where a fascist state would openly say we need to fight them, bcs they are subhuman - a liberal state would say - we need to fight them, bcs they lack our democracy… (whispering) …bcs they are subhuman

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    @IvanSkooby1, Ukraine didn’t start this war, and Ukraine isn’t the one continuing it. They have to fight or they’ll lose their freedom and self-determination. Look again what happened in Bucha, where Russian forces had control.

    Simply rolling over and letting Russia win won’t save Ukrainian lives, it’ll cost a lot more of them.

    The only way this war ends is if Russia leaves, or loses. Any alternative goes against everything the USA and the west stand for.

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      You said the quiet part out loud, this is a proxy war and you can’t openly admit it, lol.

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        Quiet part? It isn’t obviously a proxy war? If anyone could have joined the war openly, like they did pre-nukes, a lot of western countries would. Doesn’t make the war any less real for the Ukrainians, and doesn’t excuse Russia’s invasion in any way.

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    So if your country’s neighbors decide to murder you and abduct your kids, what would you like the rest of the world to do?

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      You are not “the world”, it’s just you and your group of white first world imperialists friends, samo, samo.

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    Sunk cost fallacy implies that the West is supporting Ukraine for profit. They are supporting Ukraine because it’s the right thing to do.

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      Do you think helping create and fund coups is “the right thing to do”? Do you think we’d be in the situation we’re in right now if not for that? The USA is supporting Ukraine as an extension of what got us to this point: expansionist policy driven by greed for profit.

      Helping build a bulwark against anything that challenges the hegemony of the Western Free-Market Economy is also another huge factor, and arguably the primary reason for Russia’s participation in the war as well. The USA is absolutely terrified of a competing ideological and economic system simply existing; the USA doesn’t destroy communist movements because they think they’re evil incarnate, they destroy them because they threaten their existing structure by offering an alternative (this is why sabotaging communist movements has proven so useful: if you make it look like they’re all bound to fail, you can perhaps prevent them from gaining as much support in the first place).

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    More tanks are always good.

    The sanctions are working. But in a sense of turning Russia into a bigger NK or Iran. They don’t have inflation because they immediately restricted capital exchanges preventing any capital flight. They also increased their federal fund rate by a lot, which will prevent inflation but still hurt their economy.

    Russia is suffering from ammunition shortages, which is why they are firing much less compared to the start of the war.

    Ukraine made more progress in the last two weeks than Russia did in the last 6 months. It was always gonna be hard. Unlike with the Kharkiw counteroffensive Russia expects it and is dug in having built up defence in depth. It was always gonna be hard, specially in the early days. More like how the Kherson counteroffensive went which took over a month of heavy fighting to get going.

    I’m not aware of Ukrainians just surrendering and refusing to fight. To me it looks like they are fighting quite effectively so far.

    Lastly, if you are actually worried about the loss of Ukrainian live (which I doubt tbh) than maybe, just maybe you should instead support your Biden administration and encourage them to send more material so that Ukrainians can better defend themselves.

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      if you are actually worried about the loss of Ukrainian live (which I doubt tbh) than maybe, just maybe you should instead support your Biden administration and encourage them to send more material so that Ukrainians can better defend themselves.

      If you actually care about the loss of any lives (Ukranian and Russian), then you should not support any action which does not immediately end the war. Providing more ammunition causes more deaths (what is ammunition used for? they aren’t shooting trees, they’re shooting and killing humans). How can you not see how hypocritical it is to suggest that more arms would lead to less death?

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        If the Russian soldier wants to survive he can just surrender or go home (although he might get shot by their own men).

        If the Ukrainian wants to survive, he has to drive the Russians out of his country.

        And you are right, I do not care whether the invaders survive or not. They decide to invade their peaceful neighbour to murder and rape the civilian population. Have you all forgotten Bucha already? I have not, and there are hundreds of Buchas in the occupied territories.

        Are you seriously telling Ukraine they should just let the Russians genocide and rape them in peace instead of fighting for their survival? That’s a sickening take.

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          If the Russian soldier wants to survive he can just surrender or go home (although he might get shot by their own men).

          If the Ukrainian wants to survive, he has to drive the Russians out of his country.

          This is nonsense. Russia has not set out to kill every Ukranian. If the Ukranians stopped fighting back, Russia wouldn’t kill them all, they’d stop killing them in fact. I don’t understand how you think this is one-sided. As long as Ukraine is fighting back, they’re contributing to the loss of their own lives.

          Are you seriously telling Ukraine they should just let the Russians genocide and rape them

          Again, you’re acting like the goal is to genocide the Ukranian people. There’s literally nothing to indicate this.

          I’ll say it once more simply, but I doubt you care about logical consistency: Both Ukraine and Russia can end this war by stopping putting anything in to continuing it; as long as a party is continuing, and not stopping the war, that party is in part responsible for the loss of more human lives.

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            “Yes your Honor, it’s her fault I’m raping her. If she’d just consented I wouldn’t have to rape her!”

            Do you even listen to yourself?