• MBech@feddit.dk
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      1 day ago

      You’re being disingenuous as fuck if you’re seriously trying to argue the democratic leadership is different than any republican politician. They try to hide it, but there is very clear evidence, that the democratic leaders plan which democratic politicians have to vote with republicans on key votes to make sure you, the people, are being kept in line.

      The democratic leaders would rather watch you die in the streets, let ICE deport citizens, imprison people for life for having weed, than loosing access to their sponsor money.

      It is important to point this out, because the democratic leadership isn’t your friend. They try to milk you just as much as their opponents, and because of this, it’s literally a matter of life and death, to vote them out in the primaries.

      Acting like this is some “both side” bullshit is some bootlicker bullshit, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

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        You’re going to get mobbed by Americans for denigrating their favored sports team. Most anyone outside the states see the Democrats and Republicans as two sides of the good cop/bad cop coin, with Democrats catering to token issues but being weak, ineffectual, and generally center to center right.

        And no, I’m not encouraging anyone not to vote. Vote AND hold your politicians accountable. Have a proper fucking protest like the French, not these soft, civil assemblies you lot seem to favor.

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        Calm down.

        While the Democrats have been co-opted by corporate donors and Israel, it is obvious they are not the fascists and thieves the Republicans are.

        This is why it’s so important to support DSA and Progressive candidates. Even with a small number of Progressives and DSA members in congress, a lot can be done.

        This is also why it’s is vital to vote in all primaries and local races.

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          15 hours ago

          I will not calm down. I am sick and tired about being right, when americans will not wake up, and see that their precious democratic party is complicit by design. They’re plausible deniablity for the whole government. Their go-to response is, and has always been “but we can’t do anything, we have to work together with the republicans”, while republicans burn everything down to the ground. It is done so, to make the people complicit, timid and accept that there’s nothing to be done, while they’re being robbed of everything they were promised they would achieve, because they live in the “greatest country in the world”.

          We’ll see, if the democrats win in a landslide, my money is on nothing of importance being done in the next 2 years. Trump will still do everything he wants to do, the democrats will keep making bullshit excuses, while about a handfull of DSA policians are completely ignored on the sidelines.

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            11 hours ago

            So does that make you an accelerationist or a revolutionary?

            Because you’re clearly not a serious person.

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              Because you’re clearly not a serious person.

              Just because they’re pointing out something that makes you uncomfortable doesn’t give you license to be a condescending cunt. Your argument is basically “nuh uh”. If anyone here isn’t a serious person, it’s you. Stop projecting, yeah?

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                No, that’s not what makes them unserious(I’m not even uncomfortable). It’s the insistence on “bothsides bad” rhetoric which launders the extreme criminality and corruption of the GOP.

                When you engage in bothsidesism, you give cover to the worst people.

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              11 hours ago

              Revolutionary would probably be the closest. The american system isn’t a democracy. At this point, you’d need a revolution to make it so.

              Dismissing all this by saying “you’re not a serious person”, is very counterintuitive to having a discussion about what issues the american political system is facing and what solutions are required to fix them. I won’t try to debate you, when you clearly dismiss anything that questions your precious and beloved politicians, who I’m clearly not allowed to criticize because they’re infallible.

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                10 hours ago

                You can criticize all you want, I do it all the time, but I’m not a doomer(that looks like a Russian troll account). That’s one huge difference.

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                Once they reach for the “anyone who disagrees with me is a Russian troll”, it’s best to disengage. Their responses are primarily memes, insults, and parroted talking points. Classic American - they don’t have any more to offer.

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        You’re being disingenuous. The trump family is a crime syndicate with each member tied to paid for favors in some cases as high as a billion dollars. I don’t even like the bidens but his kid was a accused of bribery to the tune of 100 thousand, which when investigated by conservatives was proven to be unfounded made up horse shit.

        Read beyond the headlines please. Use that head or go the Roman route and bury it in the sand proper.