• GreenBeard@lemmy.ca
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    7 hours ago

    It’s odd that you think the amount of blood on his hands is why people complain about Platner. I’ve never met an American who had a problem with violence, just very strong opinions about who deserved it and who didn’t.

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      7 hours ago

      It’s odd that you think the amount of blood on his hands is why people complain about Platner.

      Well, the primary reason people complain about Platner is because he’s anti-Zionist. But that’s sort of the reverse of “blood on your hands”. Certain parts of the American polity are upset because he’s not championing genocide loudly enough.

      But the secondary reason is that he’s got the Totenkompf, which is pitched as a proxy for fascist, bloody political beliefs (specifically aimed at European Jews).

      I’ve never met an American who had a problem with violence, just very strong opinions about who deserved it and who didn’t.

      I know more than a few rhetorical pacifists. But they also tend to fall into the “Vote Blue No Matter Who” contingent. And they never actually have an opportunity to commit or refrain from violence in their daily lives. So the pacifism doesn’t amount to anything more than a veneer for their liberal ideology. It certainly doesn’t inform their lifestyle.

      I also know a couple of people in the military and the police. They are extremely “just following orders” types, especially with respect to their professions. I get the sense these institutions drill the “who deserves it” question out of you, absent a commanding officer saying “fuck them up, they deserve it”.

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      7 hours ago

      Most people think violence can be justified. There are very few pacifists in the world, but I understand your point. I’m not inherently anti violence, but I have brought up not just his military history but his support of the military as part of his platform from the very beginning. I wish people cared as much about anti imperialism (and the other issues of our military industrial complex) as they do about domestic issues. Americans are quite militaristic though and I think it will take a lot to move us from that position.

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        6 hours ago

        I think that may be an exercise in futility friend. The US was born in blood, and spent its whole existence extracting it from others somewhere, even itself. I’m skeptical to say the very least that it will ever change.